The End
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bektaskonca — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 02:50 PM)
it was simple, she did not value him and his work, he loved her and her opinion about him and his work was very important, she tossed him away like he was nothing because as her mother said you are just like me, she was a very cold person had not much feeling in her souls, her heart never raced, she never felt nor shoved emotions, reading the book she felt all that , he gave her what she did not have and confirmed by date he made the last move by not turning up so she can go back to her miserable life back, so it was a revenge motive with both players being sour and sorrow person, i mean carrying such bitterness and sorrow for 20 years ?? i personally get cancer if i felt like that from a relationship well i suppose they had to make up such story to keep audience interested after all in real life this could never happen.
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DHfilmfan — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 04:40 PM)
so it was a revenge motive with both players being sour and sorrow person, i mean carrying such bitterness and sorrow for 20 years ?? i personally get cancer if i felt like that from a relationship
Agreed. I think that's why at the end of the story, people are like, "That's it?" I think they get what happened (which you nicely summarized), but then they reevaluate whether or not they care. And given two sour and sorrowful people, one of whom hurt the other, and the other responding with a manuscript, I can't imagine too many people giving a beep
From what I understand, the novel the film was based on was really more about the power of narrative and how it invades our thoughts and experiences in real life. It was a very self-conscious and perhaps literary novel aboutnovels. All the revenge aspects and relationship aspects are just window-dressing. So I think trying to make such a literary book (about reading) into a "thriller" (rather than a prosaic story that contains a thriller) leaves the audience with a sense that some things just don't fit, or that it's trying too hard to make us care without giving us the appropriate signs for whom or what to care about. -
woodmakesitgood — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 11:43 PM)
Based on Ford's comments, and the minimal description of current Tony in the film, it seems we are to care mostly about Susan. She's apparently moving on in many different ways now. Great.
It doesn't really matter if Tony is sick, or dying, or if he got a bad Uber driver, is out for revenge, or just chickened out of dinner.
My guess is revenge, but that's just a guess, which like all of these guesses is pointless to the other major points of the story.
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SideEyedChloe — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 01:47 PM)
IMO, he send her novel, dedicated to her, as she were the one, who didn't believe in him. Called him mediocre, told him not to write about himself. Left him for "the real man" in "the real world" and aborted his child.
Well novel was, about his life, she is haunted by the words in it, enchanted in so many ways that she ask him for meeting.
Maybe only thing that she didn't realized that plot was one huge allegory for their former life. She was in many ways Ray, as she killed every opportunity for Edward to have family with her, loving wife and child (daughter). She was Ray in a way that old Susan was dead, and new, non-creative, ready "for real world" Susan was born when she decided to leave.
Edward was both, Tony and Bobby. Tony-broken figure unable to do ANYTHING to save his child, and save his wife (in a way that he didn't prevent abortion and Susan's leaving), and Bobby, even though terminally ill, still hungry for justice, revenge and will to make things right once for all - he took all his strength, wrote hauntingly powerful novel ABOUT HIS LIFE, in which in a many ways he killed his old self - full of regret, but before that he said goodbye to Susan once for all knowing that justice was served.
Susan, as she was waiting at the table in the restaurant finally understood that. He never showed up as it wasn't his agenda in the first place. He just wanted her to understand what she did to his life, what she did to her own life and that she live to regret it. She lived to regret it.
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tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 02:16 PM)
He never showed up as it wasn't his agenda in the first place.
Then why did he agree to meet with her? You think he's a dishonest or cowardly person?
IMO, he send her novel, dedicated to her, . . .
Novelists dedicate their novels to people whom they regard highly - not somebody whom they despise. -
mirwais-orbit — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 09:25 AM)
I think that the ending is exactly like that: no more words to say the end is finally the end.
It's sad, it's terrifying said. Excruciatingly! And only will get it those ones that lived the same situation at least once in life.
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shoutatthesky — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 03:07 AM)
I don't get what you mean by calling this a non-ending. To me it's a perfect ending. I have felt what Edward felt. Susan is the cold hearted bitch that never believed in her man (it's not a complicated job) and then fulfilled her own beliefs by withdrawing her support and betraying a man who clearly felt deeply about, and therefore was almost destroyed by, her betrayal. When will women learn that the value that get out of a relationship is often directly correlated with the integrity they have in that relationship. In other words - have some faith in your man and don't be a beep useless, slutty bitch!
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tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 05:03 AM)
I have felt what Edward felt.
You've been cuckolded because you were useless in the sack like Edward? That's so sad, man - but do you really expect Susan to spend the rest of her life with some dude who can't get her off? That sweet bod being wasted on a 'weak' loser - it just ain't right.