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tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 03:42 AM)
Pick up a rock, smash, pulverise, stamp, punch, bite and destroy.
Yes, absolutely. I can can only visualize positive consequences resulting from that strategy.
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mnl33 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 09:09 AM)
When and if you are driven off the road in the middle of the night by three or four hill billys in the middle of nowhere, then yes i believe you are fighting for your life. The problem is, the it factor. Some people will literally do whatever they can to survive, others will cry and scream why, why!!! tigerfish, which are you?
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crissttigaldames — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 09:28 AM)
And you can visualize ANY positive outcome from just doing whatever the criminals tell you to do?. Because you trust all people are deep down good and so they won't hamd you and your family? You'll just end up raped and killed. Happens all the friggin time. Fighting doesn't give you a great chance, but it gives you a chance.
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m-slovak79 — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 07:05 AM)
given the situation in the movie the only good chance is having a gun on you prior to getting into that same spot.
outside of that your in a bad spot simply because it's three adult males vs one adult male (and two females) as even if that one adult male was fairly big and in decent shape etc the odds are not good of that one person being able to take out the three criminal males especially if they all started going off at once on the one guy which could easily happen if the good guy started trying to take out one of the males etc.
but lets just say you did not have a gun (or some sorta decent knife) you might be able to surprise one of them by kicking them in the nuts and even if that worked you still got two guys left. but if that guy somehow takes it and semi-recovers he's going to be furious at that point and being they are a criminal it will be much easier for them to get violent then the common person who generally avoids conflict as much as possible.
hell, the way some people are nowadays they would probably try to defend the bad guys if the good guy shot the bad guys especially in more liberal heavy states where they probably treat gun owners like criminals damn near. it's almost like if you shoot someone defending yourself there is a decent chance someone will try to screw you over given the backwards thinking of some people out there.
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tigerfish50 — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 07:52 AM)
the only good chance is having a gun on you prior to getting into that same spot.
The big drawback with gun-owning - you're 34 times more likely to lose a family member to an accidental, suicidal or homicidal shooting incident than kill a criminal in self defense. -
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WhiteDiablo — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:19 AM)
I know many gun owners, no one ever lost a family member by accident or homicide. I know two guys that hung themselves, but no one that shot themselves. If you're gonna kill yourself, you don't need a gun.
Those stats (which I doubt are real) are relative to the level of responsibility and training of the gun owners. Just be responsible.
But situations like in this movie, unfortunately happen all the time, and then you would 100% wish you had a gun if you didn't because that would be your only hope of surviving. -
Florist9 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 08:01 AM)
In Russia all drivers carry a crowbar or bat under their seat, there are tons of videos online with various traffic incidents, where people stop their cars and each comes out with a bat, hammer, axe, sword, etc.
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WhiteDiablo — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:14 AM)
Without a gun, there was literally nothing that he could have done in that situation. 3 guys, all stronger than him and more experienced in violence, he would have gotten killed in front of his family. 100%.
This was a very realistic movie. In real life, you're only taking out 3 guys if you're trained, and they're inexperienced. But in his case he would have certainly been killed, and his family's death would go unavenged.
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jmichael3387 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 04:10 PM)
The 3 bad-guys were just normal sized guys. And the leader was standing right in front of the good-guy (Tony/Edward) with his hands down. Tony did right to act scared to get the other guy's guard down.but then he should have hauled-off and sucker-punched him. He could have knocked him out. Then there's only 2 bad-guys left. Tony fights 1.and the 2 girls fight the other guy, hoping to delay him for a minute, and hoping that Tony can win his fight quickly. The odds are still against them, but there's at least a chance.