Condescending speech she gave to those Africans?
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cdz6969 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 01:29 PM)
I'm not going to go back and quote word for word, but .. When they were on vacation in Kenya or Tanzania prior to her father's death, she gave a speech and came out and said something along the lines "When we (British) first came here, this was a such "savage" place, now with our railroads and electricity, we've made it a nicer. You're welcome"
Is that just an example of the British being British?
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HumansofSiliconValley — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 06:26 PM)
Is that just an example of the British being British?
I don't think it is. Unfortunately that was a very common attitude during the 1950's. That's what people believed and how they talked 60 plus years ago.
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vistula-579-906545 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 07:57 PM)
Indeed. Pretty much all of the colonial powers in Africa (Britain, France, Portugal etc) were of the opinion that, without the civilising influence of their colonialism, the Africans would have all eaten each other (and their wildlife) long ago.
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Ithilfaen — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:41 PM)
Is that just an example of the British being British?
More of white people being white people.
You'd be surprised how many still think like this today.
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Annabelle2918 — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 01:30 AM)
Speak for yourself. I guess you've never heard of empires in other parts of the world. Japan never invaded, occupied, and slaughtered hundreds of thousands or anything. No European countries in the east ever suffered the loss of millions because Russians thought they were racially superior to other Slavic people and tried to wipe them out.
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nerowolfgal — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 08:52 PM)
Japan invaded China. Look up the "Rape of Nanking" (modern Nanjing) or the " Nanking Massacre" if you have the guts, and a strong stomach.
Their first concern was to eliminate any threat from the 90,000 Chinese soldiers who surrendered. To the Japanese, surrender was an unthinkable act of cowardice and the ultimate violation of the rigid code of military honor drilled into them from childhood onward. Thus they looked upon Chinese POWs with utter contempt, viewing them as less than human, unworthy of life.
The elimination of the Chinese POWs began after they were transported by trucks to remote locations on the outskirts of Nanking. As soon as they were assembled, the savagery began, with young Japanese soldiers encouraged by their superiors to inflict maximum pain and suffering upon individual POWs as a way of toughening themselves up for future battles, and also to eradicate any civilized notions of mercy. Filmed footage and still photographs taken by the Japanese themselves document the brutality. Smiling soldiers can be seen conducting bayonet practice on live prisoners, decapitating them and displaying severed heads as souvenirs, and proudly standing among mutilated corpses. Some of the Chinese POWs were simply mowed down by machine-gun fire while others were tied-up, soaked with gasoline and burned alive.
After the destruction of the POWs, the soldiers turned their attention to the women of Nanking and an outright animalistic hunt ensued. Old women over the age of 70 as well as little girls under the age of 8 were dragged off to be sexually abused. More than 20,000 females (with some estimates as high as 80,000) were gang-raped by Japanese soldiers, then stabbed to death with bayonets or shot so they could never bear witness.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/nanking.htm
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spasticfreakshow — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 09:17 PM)
Indeed. Both Elizabeth's and Margaret's speeches, in Kenya and Rhodesia respectively, were unbelievably patronizing. Particularly shameful, seeing as some of their reviled "savages" were politely looking on.
I think it's great that the producers are preserving some of the authenticity, even when it's never very flattering to see the whole complete picture of a bygone era. I bet the grandparents of most of the participants on this thread have said and believed horrid, horrible things. They weren't royalty and nobody was looking - doesn't make it better. It just makes itthe 50s. -
TaRaNRoD — 5 years ago(August 27, 2020 01:54 AM)
I bet the grandparents of most of the participants on this thread have said and believed horrid, horrible things.
Oh yeah, and even recently one of grandparent said something really abysmal, but I can't really blame her since it's simply how people thought back in her days.
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