Logan:
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VIETgrlTerifa — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 06:38 AM)
In the actual show, I was team Logan all the way. Other than the having the means to pay for whatever you wanted, Logan and Rory's relationship seemed a lot more real and adult. I also thought the whole Jess redemption was came off as some half-baked female fan fiction dream of Jess. When I binged watched the show again about two years ago, my preference for Logan was even stronger as I didn't find Jess to be that great or developed of a character at all. In fact, I felt ASP and DP and the other writers went out of their way to butcher Dean's character beyond belief just to make Jess more appealing. Season 1 Dean was a different character than he was later on the series, and not really in a natural evolution of the character way.
Then this revival happened. It's clear ASP never envisioned Logan as a permanent partner for Rory. In fact, I bet she wants Rory to do what Lorelai did throughout 7 years and this revival of the show, which is be a pain in the ass and mess with the heads of a series of guys because why not?
Now I don't want either of them with Rory, and of course my opinion of Logan has really gone down hill with his behavior in the revival. My opinion of Jess hasn't really changed just because he was in two scenes and gave Rory some generic advice he read from Jo March from Little Women then gave her a passing glance before he left to be a fantasy cool New York literary hipster some bloggers cream their pants over but are actually annoying in real life. That said, he doesn't deserve the chaos that is Rory.
I'm not one to always damn cheaters on film and tv shows if the characters are well-written even if the behavior is inexcusable because humans are complicated. However, since we had no insight into Logan's relationship with Odette and how long Logan/Rory's on again/off again stint has been going on (from college graduation to early 30s? Those are a lot of years to not piss or get off the pot), we had to really work to fill in the blanks here and the whole thing was just unsatisfying on so many levels. I also don't get why Rory and Logan in their early 30s couldn't figure out what they wanted from each other. They didn't just meet each other, presumably have had a sexual and romantic relationship and deep friendship for over a decade by this point, etc. However, I guess both are still emotionally immature and with the way ASP develops characters, they won't figure it out until they're both almost hitting 50 and probably only one of them will figure it out. -
CakesAndAle — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 03:27 AM)
Her saying no was random? I disagree. The story line carefully built up to it. She didn't just say no. She wanted to continue their relationship long distance, but Logan, the idiot, made it an all-or-nothing ultimatum.
Logan's ultimatum is what was random, not Rory's response to it.
The funny thing is: a long distance relationship is exactly how things ended upwith the added twist of cheating. Good choice, Logan. -
rachfite-43369 — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 11:48 AM)
And I disagree with you I think the storyline built up to the proposal and it was random she said no and that response left you thinking well her career is more important to her, she doesn't want to be tied down, but if she really loved him she would of said yes. It's like they were trying to say with her rejection "oh actually guys she wasn't really in love with him this whole time that was all a show and she would be willing to keep things long distance but not commit because hey she could get an unsteady freelance writer gig." In the episodes leading up to it they talk about factoring each other in, how they belong to each other and aren't worried about the relationship. I don't think Logan should of issued an ultimatum. However I don't think Rory had any reason to say no and her behavior showed she was in love so why would she say no to marrying a guy she loved? To keep her options open? What options? She could of still worked in her field. Besides Logan had a great plan for them and she wouldn't of been walking down the isle the following week. That's why it was random. Obviously if Logan wasn't ready to propose then it wouldn't of been an option. Rory could of taken a job where she chose and been with him still if that was ok with both of them but he was ready. It was random that her relationship wasn't the most important thing to her all of a sudden.
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CakesAndAle — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 03:45 AM)
Her decision did not leave me thinking her career was more important to her. It left me thinking she was wise (and mature, for once) not to jump into marriage just because her career options weren't turning out as she had expected they would. And certainly it is NEVER a good idea to accept a marriage proposal that is presented as a demand/all-or-nothing ultimatum, Emotional blackmail much?
. if she really loved him she would of [sic] said yes
That's silly; if he really respected her, and if he wasn't so selfish, he wouldn't have made it an all-or-nothing ultimatum.
However I don't think Rory had any reason to say no and her behavior showed she was in love so why would she say no to marrying a guy she loved?
But she didn't say she didn't want to marry him. She said she wasn't ready to get married at that moment, just because Logan was moving to CA and demanded that she move there immediately or he would break up with her. -
rachfite-43369 — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 09:33 AM)
And like I said I do not think Logan had a wedding planned for them the following week. If she wasn't ready to get married then she might have been in a year or two. Doesn't mean she had to say no to the engagement or a more committed relationship and the entire plan. If she said yes it would of been because she loved him, wanted to be his partner and she would of made the career happen out in California. She says no but still says she wants long distance even though it was hard on them the entire year before. And she says that because things are undecided in her career and she wants to keep her options open and not be tied down. Even though she still could of worked and she didn't have anything else lined up. They thus leave you drawing the conclusion that Rory's career was more important to her and she did not love him enough to say yes. And she viewed this as being tied down. All of a sudden they make her someone who would choose career first over love even though the entire season negated that. Lorelai's tells her she would of said yes to it all if he truly was the one. I think it was random and they grasped at staws to make her someone who values her career more. Obviously we see this differently.
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PrivateBozz — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 06:59 AM)
It's a bit pointless to speculate who would be the better boyfriend for Rory, because it really only depends on what the writers are doing with them.
From what we've seen in the show so far I can say that I like Logan; even though he has some weaknesses he seems to have a good and generous heart, and he always ends up doing and saying the right thing. Everything is big and flawless with him, and very flattering - all too perfect and smooth, which makes him and Rory a bit boring together imo. They have strong feelings for each other, but there's something about their relationship that seems so business-like. At some point I started enjoying the scenes between Rory and Logan's father much more than those between her and Logan, haha!
I prefer Jess, because I find him more interesting and passionate. He seems to have a special connection with Rory, his input makes her think about her life and ultimately inspires her to fulfill her potential. He seems deeply in love with her, but a relationship with him would probably be more difficult and challenging than with Logan. He doesn't make life comfortable, but since he seems to be way more at peace now I guess it could work. I would definitely love to see it.
For me it's- Jess
- Dean
- Logan
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