why did carl kill john connor? does it get explained -
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Sorugue — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 04:41 PM)
To actually answer your question (great to see the imdb equivilent still has as toxic a userbase as ever, no wonder it got shut down), The T-800 Killed John because that is what it was supposed to do, plain and simple. It was a machine, reguardless of the changing circumstance (skynet being deleted from the timeline) it's mission was the same and it was going to carry it out.
Afterward with its goal achieved 'Carl' had nothing left to do, Skynet was no longer around to give it orders, judgement day never happened, thus it went onto its secondary programing. Being an infiltrator it went onto blend in with humans to learn more about them (origionally to become a more efficiant killer). After interacting with them, it became self-aware (much like the t-800 near the end) and realized it was free to make its own decisions. Hence his choice to protect/raise the woman and son he had encountered. In interacting with them it gained understanding of what it had done to Sara and what it took from her, or more plainly it felt 'guilty'.
This phenomena is actually canonical and falls in line with the Terminator (Camerons version) lore. Most T-800 in the future were set to "Read-only" with very few set to "Read-write" said few were the infiltration units with synthetic skin (the Arnies)ment to blend in with humans. The problem with this was the potential for rogue Terminators, not reprogramed ones, but the infiltrators who had been on the field long enough to become self-aware, those units eventually could 'choose' to follow skynets orders or ignore them outright, or even fight FOR the resistance out of self preservation (Skynet would destroy any unit that could think for itself). This problem was the reason so few T-1000s were produced, each unit from 'birth'could think for itself.
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loverboy260 — 6 years ago(February 22, 2020 12:34 AM)
Thanks for the explanation. Ok i get that. BUT is arnolds version of terminator same version as that in T1 and T2? if its same as T2 then its mission was to save john? i may be showing some naivety here or ignoring some facts laid out in prev movies (T1 and T2)
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Karl Aksel — 5 years ago(April 17, 2020 12:07 PM)
To actually answer your question (great to see the imdb equivilent still has as toxic a userbase as ever, no wonder it got shut down), The T-800 Killed John because that is what it was supposed to do, plain and simple. It was a machine, reguardless of the changing circumstance (skynet being deleted from the timeline) it's mission was the same and it was going to carry it out.
That does not compute. If Skynet had been deleted from the timeline, Terminator Carl would not exist. Besides, how come he's Mr. Johnny Come Lately? If he was sent to help the T-1000, they would have teamed up (as they both would have been instructed to do so, or there'd be little point).
But also consider this: Why was Skynet deleted from the timeline? That could only be because Terminator 2 ended with a success, ie. not only does Connor survive, but the guy who basically designs Skynet dies, and the technology is destroyed in molten metal. It wasn't over because "there's one more microchip" - so Arnie sacrifices himself to destroy the last trace.
But if Carl is still around, then there are
more
traces still around - yet another microchip. So in order to ensure the mission is a success, Carl would naturally hand himself over to some government agency after killing Connor - thereby ensuring that Skynet would be created. He
had
to have done this, because if Skynet was deleted from the timeline, then so would Carl be - before killing Connor.