I say it is.
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 06:31 AM)
Its a mental disorder. However, its just really all about vehement notion of self-image and is more in alignment with narcissism.
Once the need to mutilate what is natural and healthy comes into it, yes, it does then become more about an aberrant mental sickness.
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Ajgoodfellow — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 07:41 AM)
The American Psychological Association says otherwise
https://kutv.com/amp/news/nation-world/being-transgender-not-a-mental-disorder-americas-leading-psychiatric-organization-says
as does the World Health Organization
https://time.com/5596845/world-health-organization-transgender-identity/?amp=true
No offense but I’ll take the word of medical professionals over a raving internet moron any day.
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(February 22, 2022 04:21 AM)
No offense but I’ll take the word of medical professionals over a raving internet moron any day.
Shills promulgating a biased and distorted narrative for funding.
Nice try but no!
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MagneticMonopole — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 12:48 PM)
Nature does not make mistakes. Humans do.
The sentence "nature dose not make mistakes" is only superficially true in the sense that "mistakes" only exist with reference to the expectations of animals with nervous systems, about which nature doesn't give a ****.
Nature also doesn't give a **** about whether you want to pigeon hole gender into binary categories and label human beings who don't fit into those made-up categories as "sick".
Gender isn't just a matter of what is between your legs and never has been. Do some research before you make a complete ass out of yourself. It's as if mentally you are living in a previous century or something. -
ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 01:45 PM)
Gender isn't just a matter of what is between your legs and never has been.
I agree to some aspect, but it is the conflating and semantics behind the meaning of the term. In this respect, its about physical attributes of male or female of which there are ONLY two.
Get a grip!
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WarrenPeace — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 03:02 PM)
Exactly.
There are two and only two genders.
Male/Female.
That's it.
Period.
And three sexual orientations.
Straight.
Gay.
Bi.
That's it.
Period.
I dunno why we have all this cis/binary gender etc. bullshit for and I have no ****ing idea what it all means.
There are all these newer terms it makes my head spin.
Just simplify gender into one of two and orientation into one of three.
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MagneticMonopole — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 03:05 PM)
I dunno why we have all this cis/binary gender etc. bullshit for and I have no ****ing idea what it all means.
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WarrenPeace — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 03:16 PM)
I disagree.
Ppl are doing that **** because they do not like the simple labels.
For some odd reason they feel like they have to now label themselves as more complicated things just to impress others and to keep themselves from feeling guilty to be all inclusive since they are bleeding heart liberals or to show how "woke" they are.
Fuck that!
If we are going to label things just keep it simple so that it makes it easier for me to remember.
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MagneticMonopole — 4 years ago(February 20, 2022 03:47 PM)
If we are going to label things just keep it simple so that it makes it easier for me to remember.
In other words, it is all about you and your feelings, not objective reality.
Sorry, nature doesn't give one flying **** about what is convenient for you. This not a matter of political or cultural opinion but an objective fact.
Here are the comments from an actual scientist I've been following for years. He's a geneticist who works for 23 and Me:
"Biological sex" is not a meaningful scientific term.
Transphobes use it as a dogwhistle with a wink nudge that "biological" means "real" or "immutable"
Actual biologists understand the complex multifactorial nature of sex and have specific language to reflect that.
"Sex" attempts to summarize many variables into a binary that works for most, but not all, cases. For the practical aspect of doing research, most scientists assume cis bodies and/or actively throw out data points from intersex and trans people. But that nuance still exists.
"Sex assigned at birth" is simply a euphemistic way to say "external genitalia". Doctors aren't karyotyping infants to see their sex chromosomes, nor are they running an MRI on internal organs. They're just looking at one feature.
"Chromosomal sex" refers to how many copies of X and/or Y chromosomes you have. XX and XY are not the only combo - there's X0, XXX, XXY, XYY, chimeras, and more. Sometimes people with XX chromosomes are "assigned" male at birth, and sometimes people with XY chromosomes are "assigned" female at birth.
"Genetic sex" refers to the presence or absence of the SRY gene. This gene kicks off "typical" male development and is most commonly found on the Y chromosome. But sometimes Y chromosomes lack the SRY gene, and other times X chromosomes have a translocated copy.
"Gonadal sex" refers to if you have ovaries or testes. Some people are born with neither, some with both. Some people have internal reproductive organs typically associated with women but male external genitalia, and vice versa.
"Hormonal sex" refers to levels of testosterone and estrogen. All sexes have both hormones present, with wide standard ranges for each sex. Trans people do hormone replacement therapy to change their hormonal sex and induce secondary sex characteristics (beards, breasts).
And last but not least, "mental sex" - what people generally call "gender identity". It's how trans people KNOW their internal sense of gender innately. It's why HRT has the affect of "lifting brainfog" and alleviating anxiety. The brain is an organ, too.
So next time a transphobe asks you about "biological sex," ask them what they mean: Genetics? Internal organs? External organs? Hormones? Neurology? And why are supposed feminists so focused on reducing people to their genitals and how they reproduce?
The money quote in my book, and the thing ignorant transphobic rubes most need to understand, is that
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(February 21, 2022 02:39 AM)
So is "gender" objective reality or not moronpole? First you're saying it is, then your saying it isn't and is psychologically abstract, (which to the "woke" it is), and then you say it is again.
Get a grip man!
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WarrenPeace — 4 years ago(February 21, 2022 04:33 AM)
If anybody, and I do mean anybody, comes at me with any of that garbage and is like, "I am not a female. I am a loopadoopa bobbilty guck guck zippa zappa because that is my identity and I expect you to call me by that."
I will respond that is bullshit and she is a female and to shut the **** up with all that complicated biology brainwashing woke nonsense.
Which is all it is.
I don't get it why there is all this PC garbage of gender id all of a sudden.
Why can't these retards just be happy and accepting they are male or female?
Now there is something wrong with that?
I am a man and always have been and will be and am proud of it!
If anyone tries to throw and stick any of those dumb labels onto me I will not accept it.
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ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(February 21, 2022 05:48 AM)
Its all distraction algorithms, in a desperate attempt to brainwash those with tinfoil hats that pick up the corrupted establishment frequencies.
None of it is important in the larger scheme of things, but we are supposed to believe that it is and because MSM says so, it must be true. Anything else is misinformation.
I will respect ones pronouns, but it doesn't mean I have to see the mentally disordered Transgender person as the "real" thing. That is why they are known as Trans and nothing will ever change that.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 