By 2020?
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osualdo — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 01:35 AM)
My grandma was very religious and use to have "visions" of some sort about the world. She said "the yellow race will rule the world one day" - that was some 35 years ago when China was still a global leader by population, but nothing much than that and there is no doubt at this time and era she was just about spot on.
And they deserve it. They work harder than anyone else. Well maybe Japan has more harder workers but they are part of that region/culture as well. -
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G_W_E_l_J_A_l — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 04:02 AM)
Sure. All they'd have to do in the next three years is triple the size of their navy, bring their Air Force into the 21st century, sprinkle military bases all over the world, boost their per capita GDP by six, eight hundred percent.
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..shouldn't be a problem.
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ConstipatingFool — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 05:39 AM)
I don't think America will go down without a fight.
Let's use the last time a world power lost the top spot as an analysis and comparison.
Did the British fight America when America overtook it? No.
America overtook the British during WW1. War doesn't pay it bogs the country down. America f@cked up big time with Iraq. Then its banking system's which is a big syphoning system designed to help bankers and the rich but doesn't create anything, just sucks up money from the overall economy.
The British then lost its empire because of WW2, and the prestige it lost from WW2 and almost losing to Nazi Germany gave all its colonies hope of driving Britain off. Which they did.
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apis_fiume — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 06:00 AM)
Your examples were a long time ago. America doesn't have a productive base anymore (Trump is trying to change it though) and depends on imports of cheap goods. American dollar is backed by oil (maintained by a strong military). Once this is gone, the dollar goes into free fall.
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Liberal_Kicked_out_of_America — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 06:16 AM)
China's ghost cities, lack of human rights, failure to innovate beyond just rote learning and copying other countries tech, pollution and poisonous food and products and overall misery for the still-vastly rural peasant class and separatist movements of ethnic minorities will catch up to them sooner than later, I'd be more willing to bet on the collapse of any single superpower in the future than another one dominating.
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ConstipatingFool — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 06:23 AM)
China's ghost cities, lack of human rights, failure to innovate beyond just rote learning and copying other countries tech, pollution and poisonous food and products and overall misery for the still-vastly rural peasant class and separatist movements of ethnic minorities will catch up to them sooner than later
So.why hasn't it caught up with them? It's only been 40 years since China's markets opened up..
See, you're hoping they fail which is why you only focus on the negatives and lack and objective view. Yes those are their problems, but their main advantages are- They have good overall strategy for the country unlike the US which runs inefficient strategies because of lobbying from weapons manufacturers, oil industry, banking etc.
- They don't piss off half the world and waste resources policing it. They've been investing and building business ties.
In fact and here's the crazy thing. If you go on youtube etc or talk to China's younger generation which I have in person, they are fiercely patriotic. More so than the older generation. So the communist party's hold is ironically more secure than it was 30 years ago.
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Liberal_Kicked_out_of_America — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 06:34 AM)
See, you're hoping they fail
I hope their communist regime fails and they become democratic, yes.
If you go on youtube etc or talk to China's younger generation which I have in person, they are fiercely patriotic. More so than the older generation.
It's easy to be patriotic when you are brainwashed. It's disturbing to me that Tianamen Square is an issue that has been virtually wiped from the history of the nation, and of those few young people who know of it, they shut down and don't want to talk about it like a war veteran being asked about D-Day or something. I mean yeah Americans aren't too fond of discussing our past shameful periods, but at least we don't pretend it never happened either.
When you consider this attitude that discussing anything that could upset the balance of the "harmony of the nation", how can you really trust any of the books the government publishes on the state of the economy or the happiness of their people? -
ConstipatingFool — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 07:53 AM)
I hope their communist regime fails and they become democratic, yes.
You're confusing hope with reality and the most likely objective outcome.
When you consider this attitude that discussing anything that could upset the balance of the "harmony of the nation", how can you really trust any of the books the government publishes on the state of the economy or the happiness of their people?
That's your assessment with your knowledge. What's interesting is I can attack China's position in say the South China Sea, or China's lack of human rights, and I have on youtube comments. Almost immediately and relentlessly I will have Chinese people and not peasants farmers, but generally Chinese studying overseas, well educated, speaking English, attack me for my views.
Even the ones living overseas, who've seen what the outside world's like protect their country. They've basically identified the party and the country as the same thing, even though for us we see the communist party as oppressing them. They don't see it at all, they see the party has having made China great and that humans need control over them.
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infinityinterrupt — 9 years ago(February 17, 2017 07:48 AM)
Unlikely. Their growth is unsustainable, and they now have a rather large bubble in their housing The real concern is when it breaks, how negatively will it affect the rest of the world.
There is also the factor that the dollar is still the world's reserve currency.
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