There’s a huge violent protest happening in Russia against Putin as well
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 05, 2021 09:24 PM)
Why is it a great point? Is it because he gets to celebrate Christmas on the wrong day?
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 02:20 AM)
You mean he celebrates Christmas on the right day. I was raised Orthodox so obviously I can give him a nod of familiarity.
Of course I know some of the biggest tyrants on earth were religious. That's why I pointed out that men at his level of power are all going to hell anyway. They must be brutal and Machiavellian to get where they are. Like I said, Saint Obama has blood on his hands too.
I grew up during the Cold War. The Soviet system, the Gulag, the enforced atheism, the KGB which Putin worked for - that system is finally dead when a Russian tyrant is as Orthodox as the Czar. That was my point.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 04:09 AM)
He symbolizes the death of the Soviet Union and its stern application of scientific socialism with the return of the Czars. That's a good thing for the West.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:15 AM)
Honestly I'm not too concerned about democracy in non-Western countries with no democratic tradition.
You should check out Arnold Toynbee, the historian who outlined the difference between different civilizations. Russia is part of Orthodox civilization. What they do is none of our business. They were only relevant when they were the great hope of Marxism.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:37 PM)
I have. And his intellectual successor Samuel P. Huntington with the clash of civilizations.
I am somewhat surprised that you as an Orthodox person are cool with Orthodox societies being seen as inherently despotic and undynamic, but hey, different strokes!
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:54 PM)
Jared Kushner said...
I have. And his intellectual successor Samuel P. Huntington with the clash of civilizations.
I am somewhat surprised that you as an Orthodox person are cool with Orthodox societies being seen as inherently despotic and undynamic, but hey, different strokes!
Three cheers for Pootie!!!
As an American I have learned by watching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that we only create havoc when we try to spread "democracy".
You do realize I hope that before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, there was a progressive Marxist government, women in positions of power, no ****ing burka requirement, and no "dancing boys" i.e. male child prostitutes. We sure fixed Afghanistan after we told Russia to butt out.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 08:19 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
As an American I have learned by watching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that we only create havoc when we try to spread "democracy".
You do realize I hope that before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, there was a progressive Marxist government, women in positions of power, no fucking burka requirement, and no "dancing boys" i.e. male child prostitutes. We sure fixed Afghanistan after we told Russia to butt out.
You mean before the US support for the mujahideen in the 80s. The way you wrote that, the casual reader could think that the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001-02 toppled a liberal, secular regime. That skips over a few chapters, including the Taliban. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:20 AM)
Jared Kushner said...
You mean before the US support for the mujahideen in the 80s. The way you wrote that, the casual reader could think that the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001-02 toppled a liberal, secular regime. That skips over a few chapters, including the Taliban.
Okay, good point. There was no actual American invasion in the 80's. But the U.S. did back the mujahideen and we are responsible for toppling the progressive government. Frankly, the Soviets were on the right side and we are paying the price now for meddling, as usual.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:23 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
Okay, good point. There was no actual American invasion in the 80's. But the U.S. did back the mujahideen and we are responsible for toppling the progressive government. Frankly, the Soviets were on the right side and we are paying the price now for meddling, as usual.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:40 AM)
Jared Kushner said...
OMG… please don't fall into the trap of thinking the Russians weren't the most cold-eyed of aggressors ever, because they were.
Sure. And the alternative to the progressive pro-Russian Marxist regime was the Taliban. The Russians backed the right side. The U.S. didn't and it's paying the price just as it did by overturning Hussein's regime in Iraq. We need to stay the **** outta Asia.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:43 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
Sure. And the alternative to the progressive pro-Russian Marxist regime was the Taliban. The Russians backed the right side. The U.S. didn't and it's paying the price just as it did by overturning Hussein's regime in Iraq. We need to stay the fuck outta Asia.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:50 AM)
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I feel that we have crystallized an issue of vital importance to you; this should weigh in on your political posts, from here on in.
My position hasn't changed. I've been very clear that I oppose both U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, yes. And I oppose Biden's upcoming invasion of Syria.
We've been in a constant state of war for 20 years, and off and on for the past 60 years. Enough already.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:52 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
My position hasn't changed. I've been very clear that I oppose both U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, yes. And I oppose Biden's upcoming invasion of Syria.
We've been in a constant state of war for 20 years, and off and on for the past 60 years. Enough already.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 05:04 AM)
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What about the current withdrawal from Yemen?
Our involvement in Yemen is more of the same failed policy embraced by both Republicans and Democrats.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 05:31 AM)
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But could you credit warmonger Sleepy Joe Biden for it?
I "credit" him for his support of the Neo-Con invasion of Iraq.
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