There’s a huge violent protest happening in Russia against Putin as well
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 03:28 AM)
Don't get me wrong on my praise of Putin. As a man he can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.
I just like him symbolically because he represents the death of the Soviet Union. I keep going back to the fact he was a member of the KGB, a sinister organization which represented the Soviet bureaucracy in all its cunning evil.
Now that same man is just the Russian Orthodox Czar of Russia, as evil as the Czars themselves, but just a Czar, not a member of a Marxist cabal who relied on the genius of Marx and his understanding of class and history.
Marx is formidable. Czars are just despotic monarchs. Nothing's new. America has defeated Russia.
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cryptoflovecraft — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 04:24 AM)
As you said previously, such men of destiny are beyond good and evil. I see Putin as "good" in so far as he represents active resistance to the American-Zionist empire. I see Hamas and Hezbollah as good guys for much the same reason. I support anti-colonialist struggles all over the world, including in Northern Ireland, Africa and Latin America. My foreign policy positions are actually much closer to those of the classic left than to fascism or Nazism (even though I'm supposedly such a Nazi). It is interesting to note that Hitler actively supported anti-colonialist struggles in places like India and Northern Ireland but he was motivated more by anti-British sentiment than by genuine anti-imperialism (after all, he was an imperialist himself). He also supported the Arabs esp. the Palestinians who themselves were victims of European colonialism.
The Soviet Union of the Stalin era was much closer to being a National Bolshevist state than a genuine Marxist one because Stalin combined Marxism with Russian nationalism, national self-determination (his 'socialism for one nation' idea) and emperor worship i.e., the personality cult of Stalin. Stalin learned early on that Marxism-Leninism could only motivate the Russian people so much. During the Great Patriotic War, he revived symbols of Russia's glorious past, reopened the churches and told the Russian people that they were fighting to save the Motherland. Nationalism, in many ways, saved the Soviet Union from the Germanic invaders, who likewise were motivated by nationalism (though a far more aggressive and imperialistic form of nationalism, at that). Nationalism is fine imo as long as it's non-aggressive nationalism and it stays within its own borders. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:44 AM)
I support Hamas and Hezbollah, but I see Russia as rather ancillary to that conflict. As an American my only concern is a Russian threat to our national security. Trump was genius to embrace Putin. But still, even without Trump, Russia is no longer a threat.
Stalin did fit in with the Marxist outline of history. His was a dictatorship of the proletariat, as despicable as that turned out to be when it's put into effect.
I do think you underestimate the Soviet Union's importance in giving support to minorities at the expense of ethnic Russians. There's even a semi-autonomous Jewish Oblast in Siberia. Though that one may be ironic since it's a frozen wasteland.
The Soviet Union was a quasi-globalist concoction though when it all comes down to it. Real Czarist Orthodox Russia is back.
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cryptoflovecraft — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 05:13 AM)
America has defeated Russia.
Russia isn't playing the empire game anymore. America is the only one playing that game as the sole superpower in the world. In the end, America will end up defeating itself by overextending itself, much like Alexander and Napoleon…that is, if internal strife and balkanization doesn't rip us apart beforehand. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:21 AM)
Crimea is two thirds ethnic Russian. The majority of Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine and the Russians had an obligation to step in. Yes, it can be seen as a domestic Russian issue.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 05:52 PM)
I'm just saying I can see why Russia stepped in. Apparently there was a vote and most Crimeans said they want to join Russia.
Crimea referendum: Voters 'back Russia union'
16 March 2014
Some 95.5% of voters in Crimea have supported joining Russia, officials say, after half the votes have been counted in a disputed referendum.
Crimea's leader says he will apply to join Russia on Monday. Russia's Vladimir Putin has said he will respect the Crimean people's wishes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26606097
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Corwin — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:27 PM)
You have got to be kidding. Read the article you posted (I did). The referendum was widely condemned as illegal and illegitimate, the pro-Kiev people didn't vote, and it was carried out after the Russians had taken over. Lol!
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:48 PM)
Yes, I read it. The "Ukrainian" side boycotted the vote. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Dude, if Russia had really wanted to grab The Crimea they could have done it at the dissolution of the Soviet Union. They didn't.
I like Putin because the Czar is back.
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Corwin — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 08:28 PM)
No, they wouldn't have, not right after. Little-known fact: the Ukraine had nukes at that early point. They traded those away, for one thing for promises of territorial integrity (ironically).
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 07, 2021 04:34 AM)
Yes, I prefer Putin as Czar rather than the fake Marxist state which ended with the fall of the Soviet Union.
But we both know Russia dominated and/or owned the Ukraine since long before the Soviet Union existed. Ukrainian independence and sovereignty is rather tremulous.
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MissMargoChanning — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 08:50 PM)
I’m surprised nobody has posted about it yet. It happened last week.
You will have to forgive Lara "Fury" Croft.
He reports most of the World Wide News here.
As usual, he's late.
In any case, his focus is on the United States.
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