Is Jordan Peele a racist ?
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SpringheelJack1837 — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 04:45 AM)
By definition it's racist to only hire people of a specific race.
I think it's excusable to a degree because people tend to want their own race projected onto their created characters. They're his creation so he can do what he wants.
In general I don't reckon he's racist at all, probably just overcompensating for some agenda bullshit. -
PapiiCuteness — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 05:20 AM)
By definition it's racist to only hire people of a specific race.
Then basically just about every major Hollywood director in history is racist, then. The only difference is they can get by with not mentioning it. And that's the point.
Not only did Kubrick have white leads in all is films, he barely, had black supporting characters or extras. One's deluded if they genuinely believe Tim Burton was open to casting a black lead for Edward Scissorhands, and happened to end up with Johnny Depp, or Spielberg was open to casting any race for Jaws, but happened to end up with 3 white guys by coincidence. News flash: when you make 15+ movies in a row, and all 15+ have white leads,
their whiteness is intentional - not coincidental
Peele makes only 2 films, which consecutively have black leads, something that's never been done in history by a mainstream director for commercial theatrical releases, when directors have consecutively cast white leads all the time yet it goes unnoticed, and some people have the audacity to say he's racist, when they should be feeling humbly embarrassed that this doesn't happen more often. -
Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 05:41 AM)
You're actually right. Racism is systematic oppression by those in power. There is no systematic oppression of white people by blacks. All Peele is doing is helping his community.
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SoFarDown — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 09:01 AM)
Please forgive the ignorance, but racism, then–in this case–is a matter of circumstance over intent? As in, current systematic oppression of minorities in Hollywood is because white directors help their own community?
And a black director choosing not to cast white leads is only not racist as a matter of scale?
Doesn't that create a bit of a vague scale for when power and influence begins to become oppressive? It's okay to enjoy success casting whomever you want, just not too much success because then you could be oppressing someone.
Out of curiosity, does this leave room for discussion on an individual level (a director's personal choices specifically) or is it only measured according to statistics?
I hope you can forgive me if I'm unclear or not making sense. This topic is far beyond me.
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PapiiCuteness — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 09:47 AM)
And a black director choosing not to cast white leads is only not racist as a matter of scale?
There’s nothing wrong with casting preferences. But the aftermath of slavery led to decades of blacks being shunned, marginalized, excluded from the industry. ET. Jaws. It’s a Wonderful Life. Citizen Kane. The Deer Hunter. It’s whitewashed before 1990. That doesn’t happen for 100 years straight because of preferences, it happens because of racism.
Then came the “token black guy” era. The Black community was content with the Bubba roles at the time, because they wanted to be representation of their existence: “Just show we exist in society, even if it’s the weird friend.”
We’ll never be in a situation where blacks can overtake whites, so racism by blacks is pretty much moot. They’re not exactly causing white unemployment, they’re helping black employment. Racism is certainly dying out because people are talking about more. Even with racists, trees are planted. There’s more diversity out there so racists aren’t living in an isolated shell anymore, but forced to confront it.
If Peele only made 20 films with all black casts, he’d still be the only director doing that. Not much of a threat to white employment. He and Tyler Perry. But Peele being the first in his genre, and has commercial appeal. Us and Get Out wouldn’t be considered “black” movies…just movies.
Whites take for granted that Blacks only ever had movies with white leads for entertainment; there wasn’t a high selection of all-black media out there. Peele has mirrored this by making movies with black casts that white people enjoy or entertainment. This crossover has happened in music long ago, certainly with Michael Jackson, but not much in film yet. -
Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 03:50 PM)
Peele is a director, some might say an artist, and as such has artistic license. He can choose whichever actors he wants.
You can argue that Peele is prejudiced in matters of race and a bigot. But racism is an "ism" by definition and is a system of exploitation. There is no systematic oppression of blacks over whites any place on earth of which I know.
Oppressed minorities help other members of their group. This is often referred to as a "boot strap" policy. They lift their fellow subjugated people of their group up by their "boot straps".
Racist whites will often condemn blacks for being too reliant on government aid, social welfare and affirmative action. What Peele is doing is the opposite of what white racists condemn. It's a win win situation for both racist whites and black actors who have a history of being stereotyped and denied leading roles in film.
No, blacks cannot be racist because there is no institutional system which supports their "ism".
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A. Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 06:33 PM)
Oppressed minorities help other members of their group. This is often referred to as a "boot strap" policy. They lift their fellow subjugated people of their group up by their "boot straps".
I absolutely positively HATE bootstrapping. And I resent that minorities are forced into it because white people don't know how to get along with anyone who isn't their same color. Bootstrapping leads to laziness. The effect of bootstrapping is why you have a whole lot of negros hired to do a job that only really requires half that many because minorities deliberately do less work because they want their employer to hire more minorities in order to have enough coverage for getting all the tasks completed.
It's like each individual is part of a whole. One cannot survive without being in the group. I hate that. I think people should be able to achieve the highest level of self-reliance possible so that they can realise their full potential as an individual.
So now Jordan Peele is going to carry the weight of the entire black race on his shoulders.
I think Us would have been a much scarier movie had Jordan cast black actors who could actually act. Most of the movie, they had the same two expressions on their faces even in the scenes that required some other type of emotion than apathy. -
-Thirsty- — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 06:51 PM)
I’m probably the least racist person here. I’ve lived with black people and I have numerous black friends that I call “my nigga” all the time. The problem with blacks is that some are super sensitive about the term while others say it constantly. You can hardly blame a white person for saying it as long as there isn’t malicious intent.
If I’m racist towards anyone it’s asian ****ing drivers that nearly kill me every time on the road. I just drove back from the office and had one swerve directly in my lane. I pulled up next to them and threw a handful of coins at their window. I’ve now done this 4 times. Fuck those ******. -
A. Raven Andromeda — 6 years ago(April 08, 2019 07:13 PM)
The "problem" with whites is that you can't get along with people of color and you think you're supreme beings.
That's a delusion. You're NOT GODs. You're delusional. You're human beings just like the rest of us. Your blood is red. You catch the same illnesses people that people of color get sick aside from very rare diseases like Sickle Cell Anemia.
A white man's penis is a penis just like men of color. The only difference is slight variations in the shape, length and girth which is present in every human male! A white woman's pussy is a pussy just like a woman of color.
You're a human being just like I am. You're not a supreme being. You're a HUMAN being.