What if Satan defeated God when god and Lucifer had their war in heaven
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Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 05:46 PM)
My scenario involves satan supplanting god in heaven. You said that is what Gnosticism is, now you’re saying that’s not the case and satan is resigned to ruling earth in the gnostic system.
That’s not to say that your contribution wasn’t interesting, it was. It’s just not the same situation. A god of this earth may run things here but it sounds like that entity would have limited power. What I’m thinking Is of a situation where the original deity is forced into serving a corrupted version of his own creation.
I suppose insofar as the Gnostics believe satan rules the earth and is able to exert influence over worldly affairs, the effect is more or less the same as it concerns humanity. In my scenario, the imperfect being satan is the new god and this is why the world is imperfect. In the gnostic system, satan is the god of this earth and the world is imperfect.
I’m pretty sure a lot of traditional Christian sects refer you Satan as the god of this world or the god of the air, implying his dominion is limited to the realm of the mortal and of the dammed; satan cannot exert power within heaven. Doesn’t really make the Gnostics seem all that special.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 05:57 PM)
But Gnosticism is the closest philosophy we have to your assertion. The end result is actually the same. So god is still fighting his battle with Satan. But Satan dominates. Satan even took Christ up on the hill and offered him all the riches of the world.
Gnosticism is unique because it says god is actually the devil, the demiurge.
So it shows you what would have happened if Satan had defeated god in the war in heaven.
Sure, it's different than your scenario, but not completely.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:06 PM)
Because the Demiurge created everything. Some Gnostics would do things like self mutilation to show they hated the devil's flesh. But those were only the real sickos.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:12 PM)
I love the Gnostics. I'm a Gnostic and a dualist. This means I'm not a devil worshiper. But I love both sides and want a perfect union of good and evil.
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Espergers Mr White Hello Fellow White Man — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:14 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
I love the Gnostics. I'm a Gnostic and a dualist. This means I'm not a devil worshiper. But I love both sides and want a perfect union of good and evil.
Which this world is?
a perfect union of good and evil.
Satan meets his disciples
Spoke the Lord in parables. Said he, "Consider a child born to a mother who was to die few months after the child came into this wretched realm. Then the child is born with illness that of ichthyosis, Harlequin, The mother cannot wait for the child to be borne out of her womb, yet when the child is born, she wished she hath aborted that soul most unfortunate! Who should die first, the child or the mother?" His thirteen disciples had no answer. Then said the Lord, "Neither." They were all astonished by his answer. Asked they him why? Then said the Lord, "Miracles performed by Christ thousand years twine yonder erst, yet the world suffers evermore. What good was the first coming of Christ that he healed a few and cursed many? What good shall be the second coming? Nay, i swear by Christ's first breath, God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son Lucifer, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. I shall undo all evil. I shall end all sin." Then his disciples worshiped the lord by sacrificing that new born human child, for Lord Satan denied that baby suffering, ended he that child's painful short life, for the Lord works in mysterious ways. Then the Lord come unto the wretched woman who hated its baby, cursed her to eternal damnation, her body offered to the demons, gargoyles, satyrs, vampires; servants of the lord that lurk behind shadows in the darkness of each night. Praise be Satan Hosanna the Highest. Amen.
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Espergers Mr White Hello Fellow White Man — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:11 PM)
We are the good guys
And then Semyaza addressed the gathering of the good angels, Lucifer beside him:
"Be prepared, so that you can take your stand against that evil God's schemes. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers (God, 'Demiurge', YHWH, Allah, …), against the authorities ('archangels' who are the archons), against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
We are the good guys. We the Luciferians. "The satanists".
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Espergers Mr White Hello Fellow White Man — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 05:48 PM)
http://gospelofsatan.blogspot.com/2020/02/jesus-is-one-of-fallen-ones.html
Jesus is one of the fallen ones
Jesus of Nazareth is on our side. He is currently in his spiritual form and is one of the Holy Spirits, just as Lord Lucifer is. Or perhaps they are the same person.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, who were Sons of Sons of God, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The first mention of "sons of God" in the Hebrew Bible occurs at Genesis 6:1–4.
John 1:14, 18; John 3:16, 18), Jesus presented himself as Son and not just as one who was the divinely appointed Messiah (and therefore "son" of God).
Jesus was/is one of the fallen angels. Son of God, just as the fallen angels are, just as the unfallen are.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:02 PM)
Jesus and Satan are warring brothers. But Jesus is not a fallen angel.
The term "fallen" is very subjective anyway. Sure, Satan lost the first big battle. But the war still wages.
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Espergers Mr White Hello Fellow White Man — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:06 PM)
On that day the unfallen refused to allow God to sit on his throne
That fateful day, when Gabriel and Michael themselves fell, refused to worship God anymore. The unfallen rebelled openly against God for his gross incompetence, or for his sheer evilness, that he created a world in which evil always wins, and the good die young, suffering, while God revels with his evil chosen criminals to continue commit crimes after crimes on the surface of the keeper's deep, valed earth where there is no shadow, only death.
http://gospelofsatan.blogspot.com/2020/02/on-that-day-unfallen-refused-to-allow.html
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Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 06:06 PM)
Yes this is what I mean. This is very interesting. I am now going to begin the Gnostic Resurgence and burn down Vatican City and Jerusalem and create an army of gnostic magi to dominate and enslave humanity and smite the infidels.
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