Maybe, Chx has forgotten her email already
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Infamous-Sulla — 9 years ago(February 14, 2017 11:21 AM)
Leon has been gone for many years. He left Kansas, started university in Florida and fell in love. That's when he abandoned us.
What was your username when you posted here long ago?
And you know the sun's settin' fast
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the_fleetsin — 9 years ago(February 14, 2017 12:15 PM)
yes it was cupid after all that ruled his heart.
for his arrows are stronger than any testament ever written.
and jordan's eyes spawned so many scribblings. oh for an army of eyes as beautiful as his! that i might school the universe in the power of just that bliss.
i shall always remember jordan, as long as there is life in me.
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PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(February 14, 2017 03:30 PM)
Sure if pages of cut and paste and a complete lack of acknowledgement of context meant a thing
"Who cares about context when they still said it?"
and the Christian continues to lie.
That isn't a Chx quote, particularly since it presupposes
your
definition for "context" (anything which helps harmonize or otherwise resolve a difficult passage in favor of belief; apologetical explanations).
Context matters
Chx believed otherwise and often said as much to me and others
No, she didn't. She drove home the difference between self-serving apologetics and the actual
context
of scriptures.
Lots to look through As I've said I found them to be faith affirming when I looked into them.
You never meaningfully "looked into" anything.
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sailor-J — 9 years ago(February 15, 2017 12:58 AM)
Oh PD your rants defending her are bordering on pathetic. Your insistence on trying to call me a liar for two things that are 100% true also are entertaining but then again most entertainment is also fiction.
There was a while where she was posting verses and attaching meanings that were way off. Often just posting the few verses before and after cleared up her nonsense She got pretty frustrated and even began one post with a note at the top that she didn't want to hear anything about context this time.
She also liked to ignore the original languages and base her ridicule on English words and got pretty upset when these differences were pointed out.
One of my favorites was when she went on one day about how the Bible was a lie because in John 14 it says that if we ask anything in Jesus' name that he will do it and this to her meant we had a magic ticket to get whatever we wanted as long as we "asked for it in JESUS NAME!" Since we couldn't pray up a million bucks the our God was a fraud So when pointing out that the word in the Greek for "name" used is "onoma" and isn't quite what she was saying she got all upset because I was ignoring that it clearly said "name" Here's the deal the English word name is worth looking in to. (As a side note one of the most exciting things to do is to slow out Bible study down and look at the original meanings of these words Scripture tells us to study to show ourselves approved- workmen who need not be ashamed which s perfect because any shame she was looking for was quickly gone away here soon) So "onoma" - here- this is from Strongs: "ónoma name; (figuratively) the manifestation or revelation of someone's character, i.e. as distinguishing them from all others. Thus "praying in the name of Christ" means to pray as directed (authorized) by Him, bringing revelation that flows out of being in His presence. "Praying in Jesus' name" therefore is not a "religious formula" just to end prayers (or get what we want)!
["According to Hebrew notions, a name is inseparable from the person to whom it belongs, i.e. it is something of his essence. Therefore, in the case of the God, it is specially sacred".
So as we can see a basic look at the word meaning in the original language it is written in clears it all up easily.
Now - PD might try to call this apologetics and therefore meaningless. Chx would do similarly sometimes Nothing ever reads the exact same in English when it starts in a different language.. I'm sure a French poetry teacher would agree right away with that. Anybody working with any other language would
Language and context were things she ignored when she was determined to lash out at Christians.
She really didn't have that great of knowledge.
Often when she was out of ammo she'd try to end with saying she didn't believe any of the Bible so the points against her nonsense didn't count Like a third grader at a board game mad about being behind
(Don't bother PD it's all true)
She just could cut and paste like nobody's business.
PD
2 lies about me so far
PD lies =/= change the truth
Anyway
If you'e ever on a big message board and somebody pastes pages of nonsense it is good study to look into the texts and see what's really up. -
PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(February 15, 2017 03:39 AM)
One of my favorites was when she went on one day about how the Bible was a lie because in John 14 it says that if we ask anything in Jesus' name that he will do it and this to her meant we had a magic ticket to get whatever we wanted as long as we "asked for it in JESUS NAME!" Since we couldn't pray up a million bucks the our God was a fraud
The passage in John 14 runs thus:
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Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
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And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Form criticism adjoins this passage to John 16:23b, where the narrative continues with a re-affirmation:
"Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
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Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
(As GoJ was redacted and re-edited into a form more in accordance with what then passed for Roman Catholic orthodoxy, it was cut to pieces and re-arranged in a different order, shattering the book's original internal pattern. What remains today has profound narrative discontinuity. See Thomas Cottam,
The Fourth Gospel Rearranged
(London: Epworth Press, 1952)).
But the Gospel does write checks that the believer cannot cash, rather like Luke 10:19, embellishing Mark 11:24, which frankly inform readers that a believer may ask anything and receive it without any qualification besides belief.
Empirically, any believer putting these promises to the test will quickly discover that it's simply not true. In swoop the apologists, with the special pleading that what one asks has to accord with God's will before he will grant it, and that anyone who points out that this isn't what the passages say simply doesn't understand God's word.
So when pointing out that the word in the Greek for "name" used is "onoma" and isn't quite what she was saying she got all upset because I was ignoring that it clearly said "name" Here's the deal the English word name is worth looking in to. (As a side note one of the most exciting things to do is to slow out Bible study down and look at the original meanings of these words Scripture tells us to study to show ourselves approved- workmen who need not be ashamed which s perfect because any shame she was looking for was quickly gone away here soon) So "onoma" - here- this is from Strongs: "ónoma name; (figuratively) the manifestation or revelation of someone's character, i.e. as distinguishing them from all others. Thus "praying in the name of Christ" means to pray as directed (authorized) by Him, bringing revelation that flows out of being in His presence. "Praying in Jesus' name" therefore is not a "religious formula" just to end prayers (or get what we want)!
Actually, that bit of apologetical exposition is not from the Strongs lexicon itself, which confines itself to strict definitions and meanings, but a resource added by Helps Word Studies, which adds the way in which the theologians would prefer the word be understood in light of the passages under consideration.
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