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    Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:36 AM)

    You don't watch it, but claim to know everything about it.
    It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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      PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:48 AM)

      Oh, but she
      does
      watch it. She only affects unfamiliarity with it as a way of disparaging it, and to deflect from having to comment meaningfully on it.
      But she tacitly admits to watching it all the time. Like her crack about seeing collection plates on the Simpsons, on this thread. (The gist of her remark is that collection plates don't actually exist in churches; just in churches depicted on American television.
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        Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:02 AM)

        It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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          Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:11 PM)

          But she tacitly admits to watching it all the time. Like her crack about seeing collection plates on the Simpsons, on this thread.
          PD lies again. "Tacitly" (i.e., PD's interpretation) isn't my saying something.
          I don't watch he Simpsons, and haven't for 8-9 years since my last child grew up and left home, and I didn't have to watch it any more.
          All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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            Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:27 PM)

            https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/1/p/i/m/d/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.11pi41.png/1416359611213.png

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              bizerta — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 08:45 AM)

              your movie quote was not an adequate answer to whatever the question was
              The question was, "Who?". The answer I should have given was that Colonel Jessup was a character in the American film, "A Few Good Men".
              For what it's worth, "Top of the Lake" is a TV show filmed in Queenstown, NZ. Beautiful scenery, BTW. That, coupled with a fuel stop in Aukland on my way to Sydney, makes me want to visit there.

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                Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:08 PM)

                The question was, "Who?".
                No, it wasn't. This is all a silly distraction from the fact of your attempting an insult which fell flat because American movies are so forgettable.
                All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                  Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:24 PM)

                  Most people familiar with movies can quote A Few Good Men.
                  But as you have demonstrated, you know sod all about movies.

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                    Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 07:44 PM)

                    you know sod all about movies.
                    So? Why is that a crime? I think what you mean is that I know sod all about
                    American
                    movies.
                    There is a world outside the USA
                    All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                      Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 12:00 AM)

                      Dude. You're seriously posting on the wrong board if you are not familiar with movies that are well-known enough that people who haven't seen them can quote them.
                      Of course, for someone who doesn't watch American movies, you sure seem to invent a lot of sh!t about them. You claim famous movies aren't famous simply because YOU haven't heard of them (i.e., Paths of Glory). You also seem to think people are stupid if they haven't heard of the more obscure alien races in Dr Who, or are unfamiliar with Babylon 5 references, two shows you are a fan of. While both shows are well-known, they are not so established with popular culture that making obscure references will be picked up on by non-fans. There's a world outside the canteen of your asylum.
                      With Dr Who, most know the character, the TARDIS, Daleks, Cybermen, the music, but that's pretty much it. Babylon 5 won wide acclaim, but I seriously doubt anyone besides the fans could tell you much about it.
                      You once claimed on this board that Americans had not heard of Peter Jackson, director of the Lord of the Rings movies, which together won 17 Oscars. I assume you have been familiar with him since his earliest movies, Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, and Braindead? When I found out this was the guy making LOTR, I did an anime-style "WHAAAA?!!!"
                      There's the rape shoes BS you apparently got from some book. Yet when asked to name examples, nada. The only time high heels were an issue I can recall is when Bryce Dallas Howard manages to run through jungle while still wearing them in Jurassic World. I've watched many sleazy exploitation titles, and at no point did high heels play a factor in being a victim. It might be true in non-Hollywood movies - the sleaziest movies I've watched have tended to be Japanese and Italian.

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                        Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 12:10 AM)

                        You're lying again DrunkProg. You must be well-sauced by now, after pretty near 24 hours of posting nonsense and lies larded with sweary abuse.
                        I of course never said anything about Peter Jackson.
                        All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                          Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 04:22 AM)

                          Uh, yes you did, lying whore.
                          You claimed because Peter Jackson was not American, Americans hadn't heard of him.
                          It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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                            Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 04:22 AM)

                            It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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                              Miscella — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 07:51 PM)

                              Most people familiar with movies can quote A Few Good Men.
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI's_100_Years100_Movie_Quotes
                              #29.
                              Anyone who says it's only well-known in America may as well say the same about the other 99. lol

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                                quyst — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 02:46 AM)

                                Biz,
                                The question was sarcastic
                                No doubt.
                                , but let's assume the repentance were sincere. So you're willing to give a rapist and murderer a free pass just because he repents?
                                It isn't me that is giving the rapist/murderer a "free pass". It is God and it is because he has repented and confessed his sins and crimes to Christ and receives God's redeeming grace. Still he, first of all, must truly have to be sincere in repenting. That means coming to feel deep regret, remorse and anguish over the sins he's committed. That means accepting any and all earthly consequences of committing those crimes, even if he had "gotten away with it for many years". The truly repentant sinner would have no problem surrendering himself to the authorities and confessing his crimes and paying for them, even if it meant an earthly death penalty.
                                What about the poor little girl that was murdered?
                                What about the poor little girl that was murdered? If she had reached the age of accountability, where HER sins had convicted her? Then it was between her and God and, hopefully, she had confessed her sins to Christ and received redeeming grace. If she had not reached the age of accountability, then that is between God and her and, likely, she had not committed any condemning sins. But I do know this, God, while just and righteous, is also loving and merciful. I trust Him to do the correct thing where the girl is concerned, whether she is 12 or 2 months.
                                Supposed he murdered a 2-month old that had never been baptized? He goes to heaven and she doesn't.
                                God in his righteousness, justice, mercy and grace is going to deal with a 2 month old with all sense of love and justice. But why do you presume God's justice would be against a 2 month old? What sin(s) do you perceive a 2 month old being capable of committing?
                                As I do not know God's specific plan for children who die before the age where they do wrong, know they are doing wrong and still do it, I don't know with absolute certainty what His plan for them is and how children are actually accommodated through Christ, according to the Scripture that says all fall short of God's glory, but what I do know of His character, is that however He deals with it, it will be in perfect alignment with His character.

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                                  Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 07:31 PM)

                                  and then repent twenty years later on my death bed, God will give me a thumbs-up after I die?
                                  On;y if you're sincere, which is why y'all can't count on doing that. God is not a computer with which a certain input guarantees a particular result - but a person who knows if you're pretending.
                                  Collection plate - you've never been near a church have you? They have "collection plates" on the Simpsons, but I've not seen one in a church since I was 5 years old!
                                  All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                                    gladoscake — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 10:36 PM)

                                    Yes God forgives any sin that is genuinely repented.
                                    That's all you need!
                                    Not every Christian believes that, however.

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                                      bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 11:42 PM)

                                      This probably isn't very helpful, but it really comes down to how a person conceptualizes God. If you think that God is Infinite Mercy, Infinite Compassion, and Infinite Wisdom, then you're likely to believe that God ultimately forgives your sins, if you are truly God-seeking and repentant.
                                      If you think that God loves only conditionally - like so many humans do - then of course His forgiveness becomes murky, opaque, and not secure.
                                      I can only suggest talking this over with a responsible party who sincerely practices his/her own spirituality. Also there are many books dealing with God's nature and the nature of divine forgiveness. You might just examine your own conscience and your own God-definition and see if you find an all-forgiving Person there. Part of it probably hinges on our ability to forgive ourselves. A lot of people can't do that, and they project that problem onto a God whom they would in other circumstances view as forgiving

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                                        AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:09 AM)

                                        What a load of cr@p!
                                        Yes, or no?
                                        and whyor why not?
                                        especially in the light of this hypocritical alleged religion of love and forgiveness of this Jesus fellah?
                                        wait Godwait son of Godwait God himself wait the Holy Ghost wait.

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                                          quyst — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:46 PM)

                                          Bast,
                                          People who mistakenly come to believe that God is so loving and merciful, He overlooks sin, do themselves a great disservice and do those, who are lost, an even greater disservice.
                                          God's love is not so much an infinite love, as it is the most perfect love. And the perfection of His love is perfectly expressed through His Son and through the cross.
                                          Those people also tend to downplay the severity of the sin state. However, if sin weren't such a serious thing, then it wouldn't have required Y'Shua, His Son, suffering on the cross and dying for our sins. But it did. That's how serious the issue of sin is. All I need to know that sin is a serious thing is to look and see what it took to defeat it. All I need to know how deep and pure God's love is is to look, again, at the cross.
                                          God is Merciful, Loving and Forgiving. But God is also Just, Holy and Righteous. You cannot separate any of these from the others. God's Mercy is measured by His Justice. His Justice is tendered by His Forgiveness. It's all connected and all part of who He is. Separating any one from the rest gives you an incomplete and errant representation of God and puts the person, who does so, in jeopardy of having established faith in THEIR idealization of God and not the God who truly is. Place your trust in the One, True God and believe Him and how He reveals Himself to you, through His Word. In doing that, you will find that you have the correct God.

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