Why doesn't the Bible talk about Science?
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Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 11:34 AM)
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Lol.
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filmflaneur — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 03:27 AM)
More to the point why does the Bible not ever relate information and facts which no contemporaries would know EG "knoweth thou verily that light is both given unto ye a wave and a particle, and, more that I have made for ye all an expanding universe where much matter will be unobserved " The Bible is fully aware of some basic science around matter of health and food hygiene, witness some of the rules and commandments which litter the OT, many of which would make sense in context.
But when the Bible does get close to specific science procedure it is liable to get things very wrong, EG the version of genetics in Genesis 30:37-40
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smithjgs — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 05:03 AM)
The Bible's knowledge of science was in relation to the knowledge of science at the time.
No skeptic has ever been able to explain why it was Scripture's responsibility to become a science book in the first place except that it annoys them that it isn't.
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PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 05:38 AM)
No skeptic has ever been able to explain why it was Scripture's responsibility to become a science book in the first place except that it annoys them that it isn't.
Because it was the insistence of believers that the bible was sufficient in terms of knowledge worth knowing (the doctrine was called "the Sufficiency of Scripture"), and that anything which appeared to contradict what the bible taught was of the devil.
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Arlon10 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 05:56 AM)
It's what still drives opposition to science today.
It might appear that way on some papers you have somewhere. Popular notions of science dominate "today" though. Popular notions of religion dominate "today." Most popular notions, whether about science or religion, are wrong because most people do not think anything through and merely copy each others' wrong ideas.
I blame television and the internet. Too many people depend too much on it. I'm amazed at how some people pay more for television than they do for college. That's ridiculous.
It's sad how many people go on the internet to share their ideas and only have nonsense at the end of the day. What do you think of marriage? What do you think of space travel? It doesn't matter what most people think. Their heads are full of nonsense. They're just wasting time.
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filmflaneur — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:55 AM)
What do you think of marriage? What do you think of space travel? It doesn't matter what most people think. Their heads are full of nonsense. They're just wasting time.
It does when they come to vote, based on 'alternative facts'.
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Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:24 PM)
And yet, some of the greatest scientists of the past were Christian, like Bacon, Newton, Boyle, Keppler and others.
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gladoscake — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 02:09 PM)
Because it was the insistence of believers that the bible was sufficient in terms of knowledge worth knowing (the doctrine was called "the Sufficiency of Scripture"), and that anything which appeared to contradict what the bible taught was of the devil.
https://www.gotquestions.org/sufficiency-of-Scripture.html
Because of this, Christians bitterly fought every advance in science, every new discovery (i.e. no less a luminary than Cotton Mather was accused of heresy merely for endorsing inoculation against smallpox).
It's what still drives opposition to science today.
Your remarks are rich, since you yourself are an opponent of evolution/common descent.
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filmflaneur — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:49 AM)
The Bible's knowledge of science was in relation to the knowledge of science at the time.
Maybe, but that does not change the observation that the Bible's knowledge of science was
only
of the contemporary type.
why it was Scripture's responsibility to become a science book in the first place except that it annoys them that it isn't.
Which is a straw man since I don't know of any one who is 'annoyed' at the Bible for not being a science book. Just intrigued as to why God didn't at least 'inspire' a more privileged insight into the natural world instead of one which could have been obtained, or imagined, anyway.
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Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:20 PM)
Genesis 30:37-40 is not even trying to be scientific at all! Whenever worshippers of Jehovah were wanting His blessing, they
usually took action
to demonstrate their faith.that's all it was.
God wants us to have faith in Him. There's enough in the Scriptures accurate knowledge to give us a foundation on which to build our faith, such as what you mentioned on being clean and quarantining the sick, Job 26:7, Isaiah 40:22, etc. But If the Bible gave us
water-tight
evidence,
where there could be no doubt
of its inspiration such as mentioning atoms, or germs, or DNA where would the need for faith be?
That's why what it tells us at Hebrews 4:12, that "the Word of God..is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart", is so truthful; a person reveals his attitude toward the Scriptures when he reads it, whether he has a positive view in accepting it, or a negative view by disregarding it.
As for myself, like many others, I've reaped the benefits it provides, in living by its standards.
I hope one day, you'll experience the same. That everyone will.
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smithjgs — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:26 PM)
There's enough in the Scriptures accurate knowledge to give us a foundation on which to build our faith
That's the thing.
Even if the Bible doesn't provide enough for all the science lovers on the board (Which there's no way it could unless you specifically hate science and never want it uttered in your presence), it doesn't interfere with science. We can learn as much science as we want to just like we can learn everything else the Bible doesn't care about.
That's how I learned to make the perfect burrito. I branched out and started working at Taco Bell!
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smithjgs — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:30 PM)
OK, I admit it. I'm lying.
Curse my honest nature!
I have never made the perfect burrito. I have never had the pleasure of working at Taco Bell. I only wrote that to get the slightest of giggles.
In truth, my burritos always turn into big messy soft tacos.
If only the Bible had a chapter devoted to it.
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Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:45 PM)
Lol! You've got a good sense of humor!
BTW, I make pretty good burritos. And I didn't learn it from the Bible, either.
My wife says I'm a talented chef. That's not a good thing, cuz now she wants
me
to cook!
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filmflaneur — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 03:06 AM)
Genesis 30:37-40 is not even trying to be scientific at all!
In which purpose it succeeds, admirably LOL. But it does, however, precisely describe a purported process for animal breeding and husbandry - even though one which is ludicrously unlikely. One wonders why the participants were told to go through the rigmarole when God could just have worked the intended miracle notwithstanding after prayer, say. Or one wonders why God did not see fit to advise his followers to follow the way animal husbandry actually works, albeit speeded up by the Almighty, rather than mess about with stripped bark and the likes. Interestingly, I seem to remember just a few verse later there is a practical version of animal breeding which pops up - perhaps the work of another author, and certainly one which would have made much more sense to those actually involved with real livestock care.
God wants us to have faith in Him
If there is evidence no one talks of faith.
I'm well aware that railing does no good
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PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 05:09 AM)
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of
science
falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith." (1 Tim.6:20, 21a.)
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