Where do I begin ? You selfish son of a bitch
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NeanderthalDNA — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:33 PM)
Where do I begin ? You selfish son of a bitch
All u care abt is urself
It's always u
No matter how much ur creation sufffers, pray to god and everything will be ok
Guess what mofo, none of the prayers help
When a poor bwgger on the streeetsvwatches ric ppl around him enjoying life eating j drinking like pigs, and the starving kid prays to you for food, do u answer ?
When an orphan sees a happy kid with her mother enjoying herself, tell me, how does the orphan feel ?
When you see a single lonely dude walking on the sideways n then he sees a happy couple cuddling n kissing, how does hat man feel ?
When u seee happy ppl go past a grave, Dou think he corpse inside feels joy for them ??
When u seee rich beautiful privileged beep drive by a Ferrari with 5 bitches inside the car, do u think the passer derbies glorify you name ??
When u see a dying animal drinking It's last drop of water, does it enjoy the carelessness of a fan enjoying itself in the water o??
I'm no judging you . I m beyond that point of no return
I dontlike u even if u handle infinite pleasures of this world and next, ill reject them all and spit on you unholy face.
Don't blame the boogeyman for ur shoddy creation
I. Hate. You. -
bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:45 PM)
In case you're not just trolling, your problem is defining God solely as a creator, on whom blame for "creation's" evils may justly be laid. However, if God is real but is not a creator - my own personal belief - your blame and hatred of "God" are probably misplaced.
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 10:29 PM)
God is responsible for everything. Good and evil. This life is paradise to some and hell for the rest
As I posted earlier, but you ignored, your "blame God" theory depends on God necessarily being a creator. God is not a creator. Therefore God cannot be praised for the world's goodness or blamed for the world's evil.
You seem stuck on the notion of God as creator in order to justify condemning the creator for his injustice. So - drop the notion of God as creator, make the problem disappear, and just move on. -
gladoscake — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 10:39 PM)
God is not a creator.
Elaborate. I thought the whole point was that Yaweh created everything. Christian-faith viewpoints seem to change every day not that it's a negative thing, it's best to question everything, though I don't have the best idea of your view on the anthropomorphic God. Maybe you believe something entirely different? are you Deist? -
bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 10:52 PM)
Umm you posted your reply twice.
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Elaborate. I thought the whole point was that Yaweh created everything. Christian-faith viewpoints seem to change every day not that it's a negative thing, it's best to question everything, though I don't have the best idea of your view on the anthropomorphic God. Maybe you believe something entirely different? are you Deist?
The OP's point is that God - call him YHVH or not - is a creator and therefore can be praised, and mostly blamed, for cocking it up.
My reply is that there are alternate God-definitions, including mine, that God does not HAVE to be a creator in order to be God. For me YHVH is irrelevant - as are Zeus and other deities/critters said to be creating deities.
From a Western POV, I self-identify as a Panentheist (not a Pantheist), in which system God is real, but is not required to be a creator. I see God as non-creating and non-intervening, and not "All-Mighty" - those designations are all based on gross reverence for power, and based on a leap of faith from the making of artifacts by us to the notion of pre-made natural "artifacts" having been made by a Super Human Craftsman in the sky.
I define God as a very real, living Presence; as infinite wisdom and infinite compassion; eternal spiritual life; and Unimpeded Light - very similar to the BuddhaMind, the Dharmakaya, the Tao, the Gnostic Christian "True Father". At most, God could only be some kind of "Emanator", like the Ein Sof in the Kabbalah, but nothing so confused or paltry as a creator/maintainer of matter, worlds, or universes. From an Eastern POV, I have a functional equivalent of the Western Panentheistic God in the form of a primordial Buddha, called Amida Buddha, who is not a God, not a creator, not an intervener, not a judge.
By discarding the "God must be a creator" notion, I have let both God and man off the theodic hook. With God not being a creator, we no longer need to fret about how to excuse God for all the horrors in a "creation" which "He" never created in the first place. -
bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 10:56 PM)
Yeah, no, you made it very clear that we are play pretending and making up our own religions.
And you're only exposing your abysmal ignorance, not having heard of Panentheism and God-systems in which God is not deemed to be a creator.
Educate yourself before you embarrass yourself again. -
gladoscake — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:14 AM)
Umm you posted your reply twice.
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Elaborate. I thought the whole point was that Yaweh created everything. Christian-faith viewpoints seem to change every day not that it's a negative thing, it's best to question everything, though I don't have the best idea of your view on the anthropomorphic God. Maybe you believe something entirely different? are you Deist?
The OP's point is that God - call him YHVH or not - is a creator and therefore can be praised, and mostly blamed, for cocking it up.
My reply is that there are alternate God-definitions, including mine, that God does not HAVE to be a creator in order to be God. For me YHVH is irrelevant - as are Zeus and other deities/critters said to be creating deities.
From a Western POV, I self-identify as a Panentheist (not a Pantheist), in which system God is real, but is not required to be a creator. I see God as non-creating and non-intervening, and not "All-Mighty" - those designations are all based on gross reverence for power, and based on a leap of faith from the making of artifacts by us to the notion of pre-made natural "artifacts" having been made by a Super Human Craftsman in the sky.
I define God as a very real, living Presence; as infinite wisdom and infinite compassion; eternal spiritual life; and Unimpeded Light - very similar to the BuddhaMind, the Dharmakaya, the Tao, the Gnostic Christian "True Father". At most, God could only be some kind of "Emanator", like the Ein Sof in the Kabbalah, but nothing so confused or paltry as a creator/maintainer of matter, worlds, or universes. From an Eastern POV, I have a functional equivalent of the Western Panentheistic God in the form of a primordial Buddha, called Amida Buddha, who is not a God, not a creator, not an intervener, not a judge.
By discarding the "God must be a creator" notion, I have let both God and man off the theodic hook. With God not being a creator, we no longer need to fret about how to excuse God for all the horrors in a "creation" which "He" never created in the first place.
Apologies, I don't know why that keeps happening, and I think I understand you a bit more. I'm Pantheist too. I'm very fascinated by Buddhist philosophy. I question reality a lot, did you know that many Buddhist monks call the Earth 'Maya'? it means illusion, I suppose they believe that the physical world isn't truly there, it's all just sub-atomic particles, isn't it? and when you go further into the Quantum-verse, things just get more weirder as the laws of physics start to break off, have you
ever heard of Bio-Centrism? hypothesis given by stem-cell researcher and Quantum physicist, Robert Lanza? it's quite intriguing and makes some sense when you read it through, he has a book all about it, actually. -
Miscella — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:37 AM)
So - drop the notion of God as creator, make the problem disappear
I don't seem to have much of a problem reconciling a Creator with the evil-doings of Man. Nevertheless, to what
do
you attribute existence, if not a "First Cause" of at least some sort? Is it turtles all the way down?
and just move on.
Yeah, just move on. To this:
I define God as a very real, living Presence; as infinite wisdom and infinite compassion; eternal spiritual life; and Unimpeded Light - very similar to the BuddhaMind, the Dharmakaya, the Tao, the Gnostic Christian "True Father". At most, God could only be some kind of "Emanator", like the Ein Sof in the Kabbalah, but nothing so confused or paltry as a creator/maintainer of matter, worlds, or universes. From an Eastern POV, I have a functional equivalent of the Western Panentheistic God in the form of a primordial Buddha, called Amida Buddha, who is not a God, not a creator, not an intervener, not a judge.
Piece of cake!
You know I love ya, B but you set me up! -
YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 08:52 AM)
"Always was" is no more bizarre than "popped out of nothing", and is probably less so.
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YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:04 PM)
Knock yourself out.
"Always was" is no more bizarre than "popped out of nothing", and is probably less so.
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YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:10 PM)
Good to know, Rocket Man.
"Always was" is no more bizarre than "popped out of nothing", and is probably less so.
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YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:26 PM)
You seemed to have preferred "I'm Still Standing".
"Always was" is no more bizarre than "popped out of nothing", and is probably less so.
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