Bible-Believing Scientists of the Past
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 04:23 AM)
See below. I posted them, you ignored them.
"When a person who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, they can either stop being mistaken or stop being honest."
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 06:23 PM)
I've linked you to them. They're right up there in my response, simply wind back and you will see it.
Here's what I posted, a second time :
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
"For example, there were the two new species of American goatsbeards (or salsifies, genus Tragopogon) that sprung into existence in the past century. In the early 1900s, three species of these wildflowers - the western salsify (T. dubius), the meadow salsify (T. pratensis), and the oyster plant (T. porrifolius) - were introduced to the United States from Europe. As their populations expanded, the species interacted, often producing sterile hybrids. But by the 1950s, scientists realized that there were two new variations of goatsbeard growing. While they looked like hybrids, they weren't sterile. They were perfectly capable of reproducing with their own kind but not with any of the original three species - the classic definition of a new species."
http://www.darwinwasright.org/observations_speciation.html
"The London Underground mosquito is a species of mosquito in the genus Culex found in the London Underground. It evolved from the overground species Culex pipiens.
This mosquito, although first discovered in the London Underground system, has been found in underground systems around the world. It is suggested that it may have adapted to human-made underground systems since the last century from local above-ground Culex pipiens, although more recent evidence suggests that it is a southern mosquito variety related to Culex pipiens that has adapted to the warm underground spaces of northern cities.
The species have very different behaviours, are extremely difficult to mate, and with different allele frequency, consistent with genetic drift during a founder event. More specifically, this mosquito, Culex pipiens molestus, breeds all-year round, is cold intolerant, and bites rats, mice, and humans, in contrast to the above ground species Culex pipiens that is cold tolerant, hibernates in the winter, and bites only birds. When the two varieties were cross-bred the eggs were infertile suggesting reproductive isolation."
You ignored it. You can accuse me of lying all you like, but anybody who reads the thread can see that you are the one lying here. Typical creationist "I won't look and you can't make me so it doesn't exist!" approach to anything they don't like.
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 07:10 PM)
It's right there in the thread.
You simply chose to ignore it.
It's what you do with anything and everything you don't want to deal with.
If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god. -
Melanie000 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 07:18 PM)
It's right there in the thread.
You simply chose to ignore it.
You lying old penis.
I wasn't here and didn't see it until now. Why are you refusing to know that?
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 03:45 AM)
More detail please and links would be nice!
Sure.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
"For example, there were the two new species of American goatsbeards (or salsifies, genus Tragopogon) that sprung into existence in the past century. In the early 1900s, three species of these wildflowers - the western salsify (T. dubius), the meadow salsify (T. pratensis), and the oyster plant (T. porrifolius) - were introduced to the United States from Europe. As their populations expanded, the species interacted, often producing sterile hybrids. But by the 1950s, scientists realized that there were two new variations of goatsbeard growing. While they looked like hybrids, they weren't sterile. They were perfectly capable of reproducing with their own kind but not with any of the original three species - the classic definition of a new species."
http://www.darwinwasright.org/observations_speciation.html
"The London Underground mosquito is a species of mosquito in the genus Culex found in the London Underground. It evolved from the overground species Culex pipiens.
This mosquito, although first discovered in the London Underground system, has been found in underground systems around the world. It is suggested that it may have adapted to human-made underground systems since the last century from local above-ground Culex pipiens, although more recent evidence suggests that it is a southern mosquito variety related to Culex pipiens that has adapted to the warm underground spaces of northern cities.
The species have very different behaviours, are extremely difficult to mate, and with different allele frequency, consistent with genetic drift during a founder event. More specifically, this mosquito, Culex pipiens molestus, breeds all-year round, is cold intolerant, and bites rats, mice, and humans, in contrast to the above ground species Culex pipiens that is cold tolerant, hibernates in the winter, and bites only birds. When the two varieties were cross-bred the eggs were infertile suggesting reproductive isolation."
Because afaik, change within species has been observed, but that's not evolution, it's mutation.
No.
Mutation is very much a part of evolution; change within species is as much evolution as any other level of change.
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 04:22 AM)
I didn't say mutation was evolution. I said mutation was PART of evolution. Mutation is to evolution as a finger is to a hand.
And I said change within a species was still evolution. Which it is.
And I showed you examples of speciation within living species. Which is what you asked for.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 04:11 PM)
I didn't say mutation was evolution.
Yes, you did - or tried to, but I wouldn't bite.
And I said change within a species was still evolution. Which it is.
No
, it's not.
And I showed you examples of speciation within living species. Which is what you asked for.
Where?
Laws are silent in times of War - Cicero