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    micCee — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 08:49 PM)

    Cademon raises a valid point, in that paedophilia doesn't relate to gender, which is what usually designates something as an orientation.
    It's certainly a natural sexual proclivity though. The fact that the manifestation of paedophilia is harmful does not mean that paedophilia isn't just as natural as homosexuality or heterosexuality.
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      martytamu27 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:13 PM)

      It is less natural because it is with a prepubescent individual. If you're a man attracted to a man you just have the genetic programmed desire that a female has. Whatever that basis is. And as long as they consent it's not destructive to society.
      Now if you're programmed to be attracted to prepubescent children then it is destructive to society and a much more abnormal trait that causes great harm to the individual and society. How can you not see the difference?
      Under no circumstance would sex between and adult and a child be consensual

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        micCee — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:49 PM)

        Whether the act of paedophilic love making could be consensual is besides the point, because nature doesn't adhere strictly to the human construct of morality.
        Paedophilia occurs in nature as a deviant sexual proclivity, therefore it is natural.
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          martytamu27 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:00 PM)

          It isn't natural. It's a mutation. And an unfavorable mutation. And in the wild it wouldn't be passed on and those individuals wouldn't. E allowed to mate and would most likely be eaten by their moms at birth. Cause the mother knows which Cubs are carrying bad genes.
          Humans go against nature. We let everyone live. For the most part. We go against evolution and natural selection and every genetic pressure there is.
          So it isn't natural. There are more sociopaths psychopath. Pedophiles. What have you in the human race cause we don't kill our young and they are able to mate. Men with inferior genes are allowed to mate because they use money and power to get women that on their own merits wouldn't ever mate with them. So you can't say something is natural just because it exists in the human race. The human race itself is an aberration of nature. We are the only living thing that goes against nature in so many ways. We willfully destroy our own habitat for example. And it will eventually lead to our extinction. Sooner than later.

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            micCee — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:09 PM)

            It isn't natural. It's a mutation. And an unfavorable mutation. And in the wild it wouldn't be passed on and those individuals wouldn't. E allowed to mate and would most likely be eaten by their moms at birth. Cause the mother knows which Cubs are carrying bad genes.
            I'm not sure that it is a mutation, but in any case, mutation occurs in nature. That's how evolution happened. Do you believe that evolution is unnatural?
            So it isn't natural. There are more sociopaths psychopath. Pedophiles. What have you in the human race cause we don't kill our young and they are able to mate. Men with inferior genes are allowed to mate because they use money and power to get women that on their own merits wouldn't ever mate with them. So you can't say something is natural just because it exists in the human race. The human race itself is an aberration of nature. We are the only living thing that goes against nature in so many ways. We willfully destroy our own habitat for example. And it will eventually lead to our extinction. Sooner than later.
            All human behaviour is natural, including psychopathy, mental illness, criminality, parasitism, etc. We destroy the world because we are the most successful and intelligent species of parasite.
            It could be a balloon. It could be Franky. It could be very fresh and clean. It could be those ways.

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              martytamu27 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:27 PM)

              Yiure just bringing up stuff to perpetuate the argument. Many pints I addressed already. Mutations are natural. But in humans the bad genes are allowed to perpetuate. As I explained earlier.

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                martytamu27 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:28 PM)

                If we were a successful parasite we woudknt destroy our host. That is what an unsuccessful parasite does. A successful parasite doesn't kill its host

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                  micCee — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 11:37 PM)

                  If technological advancement continues at its current pace, we may find a new host to destroy before we have finished destroying this one.
                  It could be a balloon. It could be Franky. It could be very fresh and clean. It could be those ways.

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                    The_Herald_Erjen — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 05:32 PM)

                    Someone's got to be the First Lady. Usually it's the President's wife, but not always. I think it would be cool if Ivanka got the job.
                    "I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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                      Oglaigh_na_hEireann1981 — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 11:23 AM)

                      I agree though natural as you are using it is nonsensical.
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                        The_Herald_Erjen — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:46 PM)

                        Could pedophilia ever be listed as a sexual orientation?
                        Of course, it could. Pluto got reclassified as a "dwarf planet." Idiots with scientific degrees could reclassify pedophilia as a sexual orientation just as easily.
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                          moonunit-00839 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:48 PM)

                          Ivanka is the new First Lady. Hopefully she can empower this marginalized group.

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                            The_Herald_Erjen — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:54 PM)

                            Has that been decided? I heard that Melania didn't want to be the First Lady.
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                              quyst — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 07:54 PM)

                              There are many who say no. What is interesting, though, is that there is a group of mental health clinicians, part of a group called B4U-Act. Based out of Baltimore, they are psychiatrists and psychologists who deal with pedophiles in a clinical environment.
                              Two of their recommendations are:
                              To have pedophilia removed from the APA list of disorders.
                              To have pedophilia established as a separate and distinct sexual orientation.
                              There are also people who believe that pedophilia is not the danger to children, but rather the taboo against pedophilia placed against it by society.
                              Around 2003, a woman named Judith Levine published a book called "Harmful to Minors" which argued this point, that children do not suffer from sexual intimacy with adults, but rather from the stigma and taboo that our culture places on such relationships.
                              So, while many people will still say no and, perhaps, you say no, just remember - this is pretty much exactly the path that homosexuality took on its journey to "normalcy" and "acceptability".

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                                gladoscake — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 01:21 AM)

                                So, while many people will still say no and, perhaps, you say no, just remember - this is pretty much exactly the path that homosexuality took on its journey to "normalcy" and "acceptability".
                                There are many cases of pedophilia urges being caused by brain tumors, hmm. But I suppose sexuality encompasses all, even the more taboo and frowned upon, sexuality is the brain, after all, what we're attracted to, no different to a sociopath desiring to kill. What are your thoughts?

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                                  YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 08:59 AM)

                                  just remember - this is pretty much exactly the path that homosexuality took on its journey to "normalcy" and "acceptability"
                                  No it ain't. Unless you're saying you
                                  want
                                  pedophilia.
                                  Because the great majority of amputees agreed to and allowed the amputation. Their choice.

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