Yet more political correctness gone mad
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Cinemachinery — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 10:50 PM)
This is the reason we need to stop pandering to grievance culture and stop pretending "I'm offended" is an argument.
I agree to a degree. Awkward sentence. But my take on "grievance culture" and what "multi-culturalism" is likely differs from yours to a great degree - the US built the notion of "multi-culturalism" into its founding verbiage and happily milked a "multi-cultural" construct in the name of industry, then offered no plan for removing the "other" cultures and necessarily dealt with assimilation over decades - it's not the same as a colonizing country (UK, etc.) having a conversation about a sudden influx of third world refugees with no hope or plan for assimilation.
I don't really agree with this whole "identity politics needs to end" fad - I think that conversation simply waits for cultures ready to address it. All the "is multi-culturalism a good/bad thing", man - it's meaningless. Barring militant regimes policing map outlines with dollars no country can afford, cultures are bleeding across borders, and will continue to do so. The conversation should be "how to deal with unexpected multi-culturalism and hope to god it doesn't sway towards broad-stroke solutions".
"I can use stage combat in a real life fight, right?" - Blade -
Thorshairspray — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 04:35 AM)
Yes and no.
In Europe over the last two decades, governments have tried to create nations with multiple cultures in them. Sounds good in theory, but what has happened is that groups are self segregating and not engaging with wider society. Not learning the languages and not respecting the customs and norms.
The argument isn't about whether people from other cultures should be in Europe, its about whether separate cultures should exist within Europe but separate from it and that never seems to end well.
Aspects of culture have always crossed borders and it has more often than bot been beneficial, Christ, Cricket isn't an Indian sport but I doubt you'll find many Indians who object to it as a symbol of British Imperialism.
Identity politics is a separate issue and one I thing is completely unproductive and ultimately harmful. It ignores the individual, which cannot be a good thing in my opinion. It leads to ridiculous scenarios, like Stephen Fry quitting twitter after getting tons of abuse for making a joke about his female friend.
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YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:07 AM)
Around here, "identity politics" is like "cuck" or SJW or "race car bed", generally empty epithets thrown out by alt-right types bereft of substantive responses.
It's the current internet thing. "Sexist, misogynist,racist, transphobe, Islamophobe" are all thrown around like confetti, regardless of what the topic actually is to shut down the opponant.
Or when they actually engage in it. Your self-described being "overdramatic and nasty" and a "bombastic prick" and moaning about "Oppression League"s and "identity politics", and untrve advocating the segregation of nations by race. -
YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:35 AM)
Except you ineptly or purposely left out "around here".
Around here, "identity politics" is like "cuck" or SJW or "race car bed", generally empty epithets thrown out by alt-right types bereft of substantive responses.
It's the current internet thing. "Sexist, misogynist,racist, transphobe, Islamophobe" are all thrown around like confetti, regardless of what the topic actually is to shut down the opponant.
Or when they actually engage in it. Your self-described being "overdramatic and nasty" and a "bombastic prick" and moaning about "Oppression League"s and "identity politics", and untrve advocating the segregation of nations by race. -
Thorshairspray — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:39 AM)
I did neither.
By "around here" you are attempting to discredit my statement by equating my use of the term with the word "cuck."
Since I was addressing a poster with more than three brain cells, I credit him with understanding the actual meaning of the term. -
YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:42 AM)
You do it all. Add you can include "collectivist" in you bag of gushed stupid.
Around here, "identity politics" is like "cuck" or SJW or "race car bed", generally empty epithets thrown out by alt-right types bereft of substantive responses.
It's the current internet thing. "Sexist, misogynist,racist, transphobe, Islamophobe" are all thrown around like confetti, regardless of what the topic actually is to shut down the opponant.
Or when they actually engage in it. Your self-described being "overdramatic and nasty" and a "bombastic prick" and moaning about "Oppression League"s and "identity politics", and untrve advocating the segregation of nations by race. -
YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:45 AM)
Gushed tendentious misapplication is also a thing, despite your crushing stupidity.
Around here, "identity politics" is like "cuck" or SJW or "race car bed", generally empty epithets thrown out by alt-right types bereft of substantive responses.
It's the current internet thing. "Sexist, misogynist,racist, transphobe, Islamophobe" are all thrown around like confetti, regardless of what the topic actually is to shut down the opponant.
Or when they actually engage in it. Your self-described being "overdramatic and nasty" and a "bombastic prick" and moaning about "Oppression League"s and "identity politics", and untrve advocating the segregation of nations by race. -
YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 10:15 AM)
I don't give a crap who you were talking to. I contributed the very substantive, very relevant to you
"Around here, "identity politics" is like "cuck" or SJW or "race car bed", generally empty epithets thrown out by alt-right types bereft of substantive responses."
It's the current internet thing. "Sexist, misogynist,racist, transphobe, Islamophobe" are all thrown around like confetti, regardless of what the topic actually is to shut down the opponant.
Or when they actually engage in it. Your self-described being "overdramatic and nasty" and a "bombastic prick" and moaning about "Oppression League"s and "identity politics", and untrve advocating the segregation of nations by race. -
mervispool — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 04:55 AM)
"Probably, although I think the problem lies more in the clamp-on-controversy gripping universities by the throat in the age of students driving policy and people not informing themselves on the topic being lampooned before objecting, rather than poor satire on his part."
I can agree with that. -
Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 10:16 AM)
Yeah, it's on Twitter too. Remember the furore when trump retweeted some dubious crime stats from a user call whitegenocide?
"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" -
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moonunit-00839 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 11:13 PM)
It is on Stormfront, Breitbart comment sections, more than a couple alt-righty reddit forums, areas of 4chan, etc. That's the crowd he's spoofing.
What? Don't look at me, I just hang out there to see what they're jawing about.
Professor Noel Ignatiev called for the "abolition of the white race". England's diversity minister tweeted "Kill all white males". You're familiar enough with the alt right to know about "white genocide" but know familiar enough to know where it came from? -
Cinemachinery — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 11:18 PM)
Professor Noel Ignatiev
This is like watching an alt-right virgin stumble on his first Stormfront thread on nationalism. You're so new and fresh. Welcome to 1999.
"I can use stage combat in a real life fight, right?" - Blade