No! A person's orientation isn't a choice.
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Devils-Night — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 07:08 PM)
I'm not sure genders really are that fluid.
There probably are some social constructing taking place, but only to an extend.
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gladoscake — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 08:56 PM)
If gender is fluid and a social construct, then why are we to believe sexual orientation isn't malleable or able to be conditioned in certain ways?
Science has seemingly come to a conclusion that Sexual orientation is the work of nature and nurture. Influenced by environment and genetics, which is probably most likely.
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Karl Aksel — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 03:23 PM)
If gender is fluid and a social construct, then why are we to believe sexual orientation isn't malleable or able to be conditioned in certain ways?
Of course it is malleable as well as being able to be conditioned in certain ways. But that doesn't make it a choice: Our personalities are shaped by our surroundings. The one with the
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PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 07:14 AM)
No! A person's orientation isn't a choice.
Your evidence is?
From the APA:
Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 04:50 PM)
From the APA:
Which would be great if psychology was a science. It's an art at best.
I fully expect that you'll poison the well over all of these sources
Poison the well means what? Your sources are very suspect, yes.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 12:08 AM)
That would be because they were born that way.
You however were not born gay. You chose it.
This is because straight is the neutral condition, it's the default, the norm.
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phe_de — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 12:20 AM)
That would be because they were born that way.
Your evidence is?
You however were not born gay. You chose it.
Your evidence is?
This is because straight is the neutral condition, it's the default, the norm.
Again, your evidence is?Everything is possible, and nothing is sure.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 04:47 PM)
This is because straight is the neutral condition, it's the default, the norm.Again, your evidence is?
Millennia of human life
, as against the "Ah wuz born this way" which is a claim that cant' be any older than 25 years.
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ForTheNonce — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 06:07 AM)
Hada, did you ever think that the supposed gay friends you once had who told you that (this is coming from you, so it is already suspect) meant that they chose to ACT on their drives, unlike many who don't?
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skyhawk0 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 07:19 PM)
Millennia of human life have shown gays to be existing in every time and culture we know of.
As for your other ignorance, the idea of homosexuality dates back to the 1890s as we know it, but such was well understood by other societies, such as Natives throughout the Americas.
Your ignorance is not an argument, no matter how convenient you find it.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 08:36 PM)
Millennia of human life have shown gays to be existing in every time and culture we know of.
Very few where it was not approved, but in times/places where it was approved, it was pretty much bisexuality anyway.
Now that it's a fashion and a fad, the USA has twice the incidence of any other country. None of you, no matter how often I ask, can venture a guess as to why that is.
such as Natives throughout the Americas.
So you keep saying, but I read that your idea is disputed and therefore debatable.
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skyhawk0 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 09:09 PM)
Actually, very few where it was demonized as it was post-Medieval Inquisition.
And making up stats doesn't look good on you. Not that it's a surprise.
Your reading is suspect as your understanding of anything else, considering your poor grasp of English.
And again, slow one, there's only one of me.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 05:07 PM)
and she distinguishes posters poorly.
Sorry, PD - it's actually that you boys all march in lock-step. You don't dare disagree with each other by a millimetre, and you all argue poorly using the same sources, arguments and memes. This is particularly evident when puvo who is very prone to doing this, gets ahead of himself and has to temporarily withdraw awaiting data to use
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ForTheNonce — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 06:09 AM)
You don't dare disagree with each other by a millimetre,
I guess you've conveniently missed Erj guffawing when those who argue with him argue with each other?
puvo who is very prone to doing this, gets ahead of himself and has to temporarily withdraw awaiting data to use
Because he doesn't live on this board like you do?
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 03:57 PM)
Because he doesn't live on this board like you do?
Your job is usually to make excuses for PD, but today your assignment is puvo, I see.
What he did was very blatant, and
of course
he lives here. (He may well get room and board for being here!)
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Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 03:36 AM)
And yet you post here more than anyone else and puvo doesn't even make the top ten:
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