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MovieChatLegend — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:21 PM)
We're still mostly in agreement.
But are you saying that traits never factored? You mention ego and extension of the self. How would we do that unless we were to breed with 'ourself', such as a sibling or other close blood relative?
It's inherited traits that are the extention of the parent, not the crown or aristocratic title. And the logic was that with those 'winning' traits the title would be passed on to somebody who would be strong enough to retain it. -
Lilith — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:29 PM)
Yes, we're mostly in agreement. What I'm stating is that if we go back far enough, people bred according to viability, and consciously or subconsciously, we were attracted to partners who we felt could best provide for our needs and ensure the succession of our "selves" into subsequent generations.
As time passed and the ego and civilization became more pronounced, some "thinking" or "ego" came into this, when we began marrying dynasties, not just individuals. Men and women were paired based on family lineage, countries of origins, and what would result in expanding the leverage of power. This exceeds physical attributes, in anthropomorphic means, and into the larger realm of acquisition.
"Winning" at one point meant survival and not dying at the hands of more brutal tribes. As we evolved, "winning" meant things like money, power, control, manipulation of large masses of people in a political and royal realm and lording that power over those not born into your station.
Retention is assured by marrying royals with royals and keeping the households with power together, even if they're countries apart.
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MovieChatLegend — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:39 PM)
Yes, we're mostly in agreement.
What I'm stating is that if we go back far enough, people bred according to viability, and consciously or
subconsciously
, we were attracted to partners who we felt could best provide for our needs and ensure the succession of our "selves" into subsequent generations.
That's still happening today.
As time passed and the ego and civilization became more pronounced, some "thinking" or "ego" came into this, when we began marrying dynasties, not just individuals. Men and women were paired based on family lineage, countries of origins, and what would result in expanding the leverage of power. This exceeds physical attributes, in anthropomorphic means, and into the larger realm of acquisition.
When we're talking a prince marrying a princess, yes, but that was less about inbreeding and more about 'outbreeding'. I thought we were specifically talking about the nature of inbreeding?
"Winning" at one point meant survival and not dying at the hands of more brutal tribes. As we evolved, "winning" meant things like money, power, control, manipulation of large masses of people in a political and royal realm and lording that power over those not born into your station.
Agreed.
Inbreeding helps retain traits - physical and mental - that you value as a lord and believe your offspring will need to remain firmly in power. What better way to prepare them for being as effective a leader as you than making them just like you?
Retention is assured by marrying royals with royals and keeping the households with power together, even if they're countries apart.
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hungryinconway — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:44 PM)
Inbreeding has a huge inherent advantage that i'm not sure a lot of people have thought about, but if the female becomes pregnant via cheating with an outsider, and you know this has happened, the bloodline is still preserved. Somewhat diluted from it's former purity, but that does allow a little genetic diversity to creep in, which could be considered a good thing if it's happening infrequently.
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MovieChatLegend — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:51 PM)
Interesting. So you're saying I should start dating my sister so that should my woman cheat on me, the kid that inherits my microwave and lawn chairs is at least 50% me? But since my sister would never cheat on me, the reality is, the kid who's going to inherit my priceless collection of Grease memorabilia will be 100% me.
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But seriously, great point. See, these in breeders weren't so stupid after all. Only a retard would call them retarded. -
Lilith — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 09:48 PM)
Yes, agreed. That is not inbreeding.
I had shifted back and forth without properly separating my trains of thought. (I need a new engineer).
In talking about the expansion of royal boundaries, even Elizabeth II in England is related to Philip from Greece, so countries apart, still related. Queen Vic did a lot to help spread that, which allowed for royals to breed with other country's royals while still, inevitably, staying within the same bloodline.
England is rife with marriages to relatives (however far removed). But once again, we can go back far enough, and somehow we're all somewhat "related" somewhere down the road.
So in that regard there's a little bit "expansion of the ruling class royalty" along with "inbreeding" by marrying your 5th cousin. Do this often enough, and well, you get the picture.
Go to Egypt, and brother and sister made the most famous pair of all.
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DrakeStraw — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 07:18 PM)
Pharous? Is that an adjective describing the lighthouse at Alexandria, Egypt, also known as Pharos? I have a pharaoh friend who wants to know.
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MissMargoChanning — 6 years ago(April 28, 2019 10:33 PM)
If one is to believe the Bible, Adam and Eve had two sons. Any thoughts on how that happy little family managed to get things going in order to populate the earth?
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