Rogue One is great (mild spoilers I guess)
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Pambo_Calrissian — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 05:09 AM)
I think they just straight up used the same footage of Gold Leader though.
I am actually watching it again tonight, so if you don't mind standing by, I'll report in.99% Complete: [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
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Pambo_Calrissian — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 02:42 PM)
Bit of both: quick cuts and cleverly extending dialogue over to the next shot meant they were mostly using original footage for the pilots. Mostly.
Added bonus: Tarkin looks a little less bad and if you liked it first time round, the film definitely holds up on a second viewing.99% Complete: [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
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Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 05:24 PM)
Saw it earlier today. Didn't plan to after the underwhelming response it got, and after having seen Another New Hope I wasn't exactly dying for more Star Wars.
It was great. This is so much better than Another New Hope. This actually got the overwhelming threat of the empire through. The death star is actually a genuine threat, and not just "eh, let's just blow it up." The stakes just get increasingly higher as the movie goes on. Just gets darker and darker. Did not expect the movie to end like that. Great action scenes. Feels like someone
actually
took a risk with a high-budget Star Wars movie.
Didn't mind CG Raddus. Yeah, you could see it, but it was still good and the dude has been dead for more than two decades now. It was fine and there was a reason for it.
Thought Vader's final scene was excellent. Nice to see force powers be portrayed as, like, a movie monster. The scene was shot like a horror movie. A terrifying, unstoppable entity effortlessly tearing its way through hordes of soldiers.
A few gripes, though. A few cringe-moments. Too many call-backs and references that the movie would've been stronger without.
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 01:59 AM)
The death star is actually a genuine threat, and not just "eh, let's just blow it up."
Are you comparing to its appearance in the older movies (Return of the Jedi's as well) or were you thinking of Starkiller Base in The Force Awakens?
Oh and you mean Tarkin! I agree, I mean I'm sure they could've solved it differently, you didn't really need to have him there in order to convey the inner workings and conflicts of the Empire and how he gains control of the Death Star but I still kind of love that they just went with it all the way.
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Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 03:58 AM)
Definitely Another New Hope, but to a also to a lesser extend the old movies. Never thought the weapon of that magnitude was handled all that well.
Oh, right. Tarkin. Peter Cushing. I blame a severe lack of sleep for that weird slip-up. Well, considering how closely A New Hope follows this one, you'd need to have him there since he was in charge in that movie, and you couldn't have him be in charge of it in this because that would require too much screen time from him. I've heard a few people say it ruined the movie because it was distracting, but it's Star Wars. If fake-looking characters bother you this much, then you should've been out by, like, the first movie. I did mind the
other
CG cameo, though. That was just unnecessary and cringe worthy.
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 04:05 AM)
I mean you could have Vader go "Imma hand this over to mah boi Tarkin" or something, or any other Imperial official dude or dudette, including a possible quick shot of him. It would be enough for fans because they know who he is and if you somehow hadn't seen that one before you'll realize that oh it's some other Imperial dude or dudette.
Yes not too fond of that CG cameo either but I think that one actually was more essential. It'd be lame if you didn't see her face and it would be jarring if it was some other actress,
especially
if you're going right into A New Hope, and lastly it would be kind of lame if you didn't see her at all to be honest, in that case it should've been another ship, and had someone onboard deliver it to her ship later on. That would actually kind of explain her lame excuse in the original even better.
"I don't know what you're talking about, I'm on a"
"Really? I beep saw you leave. I was right there. I ugh, zap her."
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Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 04:14 AM)
You could, but then you'd probably lose a lot of Krennic's character. I don't know. Thought it worked well here.
Guess you needed something like that to end on instead of, say, focusing on the rebels that managed to escape saying they need to get the message to whoever.
Lame excuse? Been a long time since I've seen A New Hope.
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 04:19 AM)
She denies his accusations. Before you knew she was bluffing, but you see why she was trying it out, and Vader's just being someone who'll not buy it. Now it's turned into watching your kid grab a cookie out of the jar, the kid noticing you, running away and being like "nu-uh".
Yeah overall I liked both of them and I liked that they went with it, but I certainly think they could have pulled it off, in both cases, without them, really.
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Pambo_Calrissian — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 05:28 AM)
I just read a thread on this. The key point is that leia didn't know how much Vader knew. Also, crucially, the plans were no longer on board (they were in R2 by then).
They'd also gone into light speed to tatooine, so some time had passed. To use your cookie jar analogy, the kid didn't know how much you saw and he ate the cookie an hour ago99% Complete: [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 05:43 AM)
I suppose, but something along the lines of "I ain't telling you anything!" would suit better. Anyway, it's just some nitpicking, it still works really well and it makes you want to watch the original Star Wars right afterwards so kudos, Edwards.
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Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 04:18 AM)
I'd say so, but, then again, that's not exactly a high bar to pass. Return was terrible. Didn't like any of the prequels. Another New Hope was enjoyable enough, but nothing special. Way too safe and familiar to be noteworthy, which pretty much killed my interest in seeing this one.
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