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All kinds of marriages - good, bad, or indifferent, but films that revolve around the marriage itself, whatever subplots

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    None — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 09:38 AM)

    I recently watched Effie Gray (2014) and, although not a perfect film, it does tell the story of a marriage that was doomed to fail from the start.
    When Effie Gray becomes the wife of distinguished writer John Ruskin, it soon becomes apparent that Ruskin regards her as a muse rather than a wife, and the stifling atmosphere of their home soon takes a toll on Effie's health.

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      spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 11:45 PM)

      Oh, I haven't seen this one, but it sounds like I'd really appreciate it. Wasn't even aware of it, so thanks for the introduction. Great cast.

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        None — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 01:31 AM)

        There’s a road and a pub (The Ruskin Arms) close to where I was born named after John Ruskin but after watching this film I can’t think of anyone else less suitable for this sort of recognition. A road I can understand but not a rowdy music venue where Small Faces and Iron Maiden played their early gigs.

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          geewizzz — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 03:17 PM)

          Are you okay?

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            spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 11:54 PM)

            And so many I still haven't seen. Of those I have see, my favorites are A Woman Under the Influence, Coal Miner's Daughter, Urban Cowboy, and Lost in America.
            I really meant and want to see Blue Valentine and Breaking the Waves, but they got away from me.
            And oh, your mention of Making Love brings back so many memories, because I have personal connections to a couple of cast members and the director. Not a very good film, in my opinion, but a ground-breaking one for its time. I wish it had been better, but I give it a lot of credit for its boldness back in the day - and especially to the male actors, both of whom are straight.

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              Bluesman — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 03:39 PM)

              Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is about much more than marriage, and though it might seem dated in some ways today, it was also a groundbreaking film with an outstanding cast.

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                spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 11:55 PM)

                Well said and I couldn't agree more. 👍

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                  Lilith — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 05:16 PM)

                  Life With Father
                  Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House
                  My Favourite Wife
                  "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                    spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 11:56 PM)

                    Wonderful classics. I especially love Mr. Blandings Dream House. I can watch that one over and over and never get tired of it.

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                      Lilith — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:04 AM)

                      I know. Every time it's on TCM, I'll rent it, but it's never available to buy. Just like Irma LaDouce - that's another one (OT) that I want to own.
                      When Mr. Blandings was on (back when I got TCM), same thing, I could watch it over and over and never tire of it.
                      "
                      Bill Cole. Friend of the family
                      ." (<– when the roads are washed out?) Hahah!
                      I know it's good when I can sit there and watch Cary Grant shave his face for 3 minutes doing nothing else, (while Myrna is in the shower) and I'm pleasantly entertained. Them just rummaging through the closet trying to find things. Eating breakfast.
                      Plus when they were drilling to find water. And the closet scene, that was a hoot.
                      Still loved the explanation of paint colours (remember that?)
                      "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                        spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:10 AM)

                        Oh, lord, yes! It's one I have almost memorized. And still I never grow weary of it. The chemistry between Grant and Loy is phenomenal. Oh, and you may not know, but I learned a couple of years ago that it's based upon a true story of the author of the original story and then novel building his own house.
                        Per wikipedia: "The short story and novel were based on the author Eric Hodgins's experience with buying property and building a house in the Merryall area of the town of New Milford, Connecticut. The real house was completed in 1939, but was so expensive — his original budget was $11,000 but the final cost was about $56,000 — that Hodgins was forced to sell it. It was sold in 1945 for $38,000 to John Allard, a retired Air Force general. Hodgins unsuccessfully tried to buy the house back after receiving $200,000 in movie rights to the book. In 1953, the house was sold to Ralph Gulliver, a fuel oil dealer in New Milford, who gave it to his son, Jack, in 1972.[2] In 1980, the house was sold to the author and composer Stephen Citron and his wife, the biographer and novelist Anne Edwards.[3] In 2004, the house was sold for $1.2 million."
                        Amazing!

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                          Lilith — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:21 AM)

                          That breaks my heart that he invested in the house, built it, put so much into it, sold it at a loss, and tried to get his home back and couldn't. That $56k turning into $1.2 million. Oh dear God, that's just heartbreaking.
                          I understand on an intellectual level that it's all about business, but if I knew the story behind it, and knew what the man went through to get this house created, if I paid $38k for a $56k house, and was offered double or even triple that, I can't imagine saying no to the poor fellow.
                          I had no idea that this was based on a true story. I love it just as much and think I have most of the movie memorized. I recall scenes with such vividness. I really, really love that movie. It's pretty fascinating given the whole movie relies entirely on the chemistry of the cast and a strong and engaging story.
                          "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                            spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 06, 2019 12:22 AM)

                            👍 (Sorry for the delay. I'm not getting notifications.)

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                              unex — 6 years ago(October 04, 2019 11:54 PM)

                              Scenes from a Marriage is good, though a little depressing.

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                                spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:00 AM)

                                Bergman is one of my all time favorite directors and I've seen lots of his films, but I'm sorry to say that I have not seen this one. There was also a tv series or version, if I'm not mistaken. I've always regretted that I let this get away from me. And, knowing Bergman, I imagine it probably is a little depressing. 🙂

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                                  unex — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:04 AM)

                                  The tv series is the original uncut version. An abridged version was shown in theaters.

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                                    spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 12:12 AM)

                                    Oh, I see. It would have been interesting to see the series, I think. But if the story's a bit of a downer, maybe it's better in the abridged version.

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                                      muttley — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 02:15 AM)

                                      I tried to think of films that showed different aspects and challenges of marriage.
                                      Tokyo Story
                                      -love and commitment
                                      45 Years
                                      -secrets of the past
                                      Amour
                                      -at the end
                                      Reflections in a Golden Eye
                                      -lies and secrecy
                                      Mr. Skeffington
                                      -ego and vainness
                                      Journey to Italy
                                      -at a crossroads
                                      La Notte
                                      -troubled marriage
                                      Marriage Italian Style

                                      • plain craziness
                                        Jules and Jim
                                        -marrying a free spirit
                                        Random Harvest
                                        -The power of what absolute true love can accomplish
                                        The Marrying Kind
                                        -remembering why you married
                                        Made For Each Other
                                        -marrying too soon
                                        A Woman Under the Influence
                                        -substance abuse
                                        before you leave remember I was with you
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                                        spiderwort — 6 years ago(October 05, 2019 03:21 PM)

                                        Oh, what a wonderful, wonderful list! (Though I haven't yet seen
                                        Tokyo Story, Journey to Italy
                                        and
                                        La Notte

                                        • I know, I know - been trying to get to them for years!). But except for
                                          Reflections in a Gold Eye
                                          , which I could never quite warm to, I honestly love all the rest - some more than others, but they are all such beautiful illustrations of the complexities of marriage, as you have so specifically and beautifully articulated. Thanks so much for the post.
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                                          muttley — 6 years ago(October 06, 2019 04:15 AM)

                                          If you haven't seen
                                          Tokyo Story
                                          then we'll need to have a long long talk. 😉
                                          Yeah, I never was a huge fan of
                                          Reflections
                                          either. It had everything you wanted, great director, great actors and a gripping story but for whatever reason it missed the mark for me.
                                          I'll add a few more I thought of.
                                          Suspicion
                                          ,
                                          Rebecca
                                          ,
                                          Elevator to the Gallows
                                          all throw a different darker twist on marriage.
                                          Woman of the Year
                                          ,
                                          The Thin Man
                                          series are fun looks at marriage.
                                          My Favorite Wife
                                          -a unique look at marriage
                                          Through a Glass Darkly

                                          • isolation and mental illness and its effects
                                            I'll push the envelope with
                                            The Quiet Family
                                            . Not necessarily about marriage but when an entire family kills people and needs to get rid of the bodies while still trying to keep the family business going it may put a bit of a strain on a marriage!
                                            before you leave remember I was with you
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