The voter fraud rate is a mere 0.000003%
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HollyJollyHanukka — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 06:50 PM)
Saying otherwise is making **** up so your right to vote can be taken away.
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元才 — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 06:57 PM)
Some studies on in-person voter impersonation fraud have shown this (Slightly higher, but still less than 1 in 10,000) but that doesn't account for overall voter fraud
The dead people who have voted, the people who have voted multiple times in the same election across state lines and those without any identification to verify who they claim to be are not included in such studies
When it is all said and done, a nice clean bill which is audited in a transparent and publicly viewable manner is best for everyone - and it doesn't cost any more than the existing system - it just allows for verification outside of trust.
I see no reason why I can't buy alcohol in the US without an ID but I can vote with ID.
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Booger! — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 07:10 PM)
actually dead people are counted in the stats juan. since the inception of absentee ballots the knowledge that some elederly voters or servicemen would pass away from the time of mailing to the actual count was anticipated and measures are in place to verify the vote came from someone that had not already expired. my mother worked for the board of elections and this was one of her main duties.
as far as IDs…i am fully in favor of them as long as they are provided free of charge as we have strict no voter trax laws in place. voting should never cost a red cent
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BOOMSHIT — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 08:12 PM)
what about the tax on the income they use to buy a bus ticket to get to the polling station
wow it seems people are already being taxed to vote. guess we should just abolish the government.
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元才 — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 07:26 PM)
I'm not dismissing the work your mother, or others like her, have done to insist upon vote count scrutiny. But once it gets past a certain point - it is up in the air.
A count can be made locally and then posted as the final count of a region. Everyone within that region can have oversight to ensure zero corruption. This is fair and treated as equal on the assumption that all other regions do the same.
Once mail in voting occurred people who have been dead for a long time, or lots of people who live at an address which isn't there, have been counted and used to make the count of a region seem to be different from those who showed up in person. This is noted, boxes of votes have gone missing and there is corruption going on away from even the most scrutinous auditor who isn't personally happy with the outcome but is professional in their conduct.
Voting should be free for all citizens
There are a lot of people who aren't citizens voting though. And they all seem to have been placed in areas which suited the administration who placed them there.
I've nothing against migrants, both legal and illegal, but to take those votes and give them the same value as those who have enabled the system which benefits migrants over the taxpaying citizens in the running of the country isn't fair
It's like me demanding a beer in Mecca - it's just not on
By all means speed up the nationalisation of people coming into the country to work and live within the law. It's never about the people who have uprooted themselves and are hoping for a better life - that's the American dream. It's about those, both Republican and Democrat, who seek to gain power on the backs of others being exploited.
Voting education should be made accessible to all, even those who can't vote.
As is, it's some sort of secret complex social science that you won't understand. But leave it to the guys that know, everything's going to be fine. Just don't ask and it won't hurt you.
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Booger! — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 07:30 PM)
no…its not up in the air whatsoever juan…its a very regimented system of actual checks and ballances that utelizes officil death records crossed with registered voters that recieved absentee ballots. all the numbers must align and be certified.
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元才 — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 07:37 PM)
I understand the concept. I've worked within exactly those systems in the past
The live numbers don't match up with legacy data and so what people think is true at publishing is not true when reviewed
I'm not sure if it's some push to have everyone get an 'electronic ID' which can be used elsewhere but in many "Shithole Third World countries" ID is already required to vote, and they get their fingers inked to stop them from trying a double dip vote. Ink which lasts a week before it starts to come off.
Ask some of your local migrant population about the voting done in the countries they left
The US seems purposefully lax when it comes to voting. Needlessly so.
If nothing else it will shut up hotheads like Trump and co and let everyone get back to complaining about the electoral college when the party they like don't win -
元才 — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 07:56 PM)
The CIA have managed to pacify people that cause much more discomfort to their fellow man for much, much less
I just think if everyone knew and trusted in their vote counting properly then there would be no need to distract from the actual issues those votes are meant to address
I was against Bush 2.0 because it was preposterous to consider him a leader of the people. Same reason I was against Clinton 2.0
But if all the Bush and Clinton fans are against a fair count then we have to question were they are getting their knowledge and influence from. More clarity means fewer mistakes
If people don't like Trump (As is their right!) then why not consider that he 'stole' the election as Clinton 2.0 tried to say
I'd posit that those gatekeeping information are the real enemies of the people.
Politicians will always be corrupt, it's in the name. But educators, journalists, entertainers and information providers are not politicians - and they never should be.
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元才 — 1 month ago(February 13, 2026 08:01 PM)
Trump and Zelenskyy are entertainers.
Bush and Clinton are the kings* that people don't want.
When the jester is more popular than the king we get a ****show
*King as in from a royal line of automatic privilege bestowed and not earned.