Please would fans explain why they enjoyed this movie
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everlone_2000 — 15 years ago(November 12, 2010 08:23 AM)
One need look no further than the 1996 sequel to see the weakness of the next generation and the mediocrity they strive to achieve.
Very
unfair, considering Escape From LA was made by the same gang as Escape From New York. It's hardly the fault of the 'next generation' if John Capenter lost his way. -
ccr1633 — 15 years ago(December 29, 2010 03:24 PM)
everlone_2000 wrote:
"Very unfair, considering Escape From LA was made by the same gang as Escape From New York. It's hardly the fault of the 'next generation' if John Capenter lost his way."
Not unfair if John Carpenter, in his effort to resuscitate his career on a commercial level, was pandering to the dumbed-down and less serious tastes of his audience. He also had to get the project green lighted by the producers, who obviously gave their blessings (if not demanded) the more cornball approach. -
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MystMoonstruck — 13 years ago(November 23, 2012 03:07 PM)
I do not agree that it's a generational film. My mother and I saw this at the drive-in, and we both love it to this day. My mom often quotes it! I was 31 then, and she was in her early 50s. I am certain that my father also would have loved this film, as he was a major film buff who loved science fiction perhaps more than any other genre.
At science fiction conventions, this film always had a major following, no matter what ages they were when they first saw it in the theater or on HBO. For several years, you could count on Snake Plisskins of all sizes at the costume contests.
Yep! I'm watching it for the "umpteenth" tine on BBC America. How many new fans will it bring in this time around?
For me, everything still works together beautifully~actors, sets, music, the very bleak, gritty atmosphere. It's actuallyeven greater now when it's compared to the pitiful stuff that has been offered viewers for far too long a time.
EDIT: After reading all of the posts down on this movie, I'm changing my score: It junps to 10/10 just to help counterbalance the less-than-savvy viewers. I've been watching movies for 60 years, and this film has never diminished in my views. I don't sit here and nitpick. The film immerses me in this world, and I have actually grown to appreciate it more throughout the years.
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zap644 — 15 years ago(January 16, 2011 05:04 PM)
What you said, but also the 2 posts before yours as well.
I managed to record it when it was on cable, so when I was a kid I saw it about a million times.
The cast was great. Kurt Russel played Snake perfectly and who can complain about Lee Van Cleef and the rest of them? Isaac Hayes, Adrienne Barbeau, Harry Dean Stanton, Ernest Borgnine. Donald Pleasance seemed like an odd choice for president but he played the part perfectly. "Y-You You are the Duke of New York! You're A-Number One!"
It probably also helped that I was the perfect age for this movie when it came out. If I saw it now for the first time I'd probably think it was okay but nothing special. -
HippieDrillSealOfApproval — 9 years ago(July 30, 2016 06:13 PM)
I agree that the atmosphere of the film is great. But great atmosphere alone isn't enough to make a great movie. You also need a great story and great performances. The story is underwhelming and despite boasting an awesome cast Kurt Russel as Snake is the only really memorable performance.
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HippieDrillSealOfApproval — 9 years ago(July 30, 2016 06:08 PM)
You have to be a fan of John Carpenter's style of film-making to enjoy ESNY really.
I'm a big fan of Carpenter's style. I've seen nearly all of his films and enjoyed most of them but I still find Escape from New York boring to the point that's it's tough to sit through at times.
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AlftheSacredBurro — 15 years ago(January 03, 2011 06:07 PM)
"Snake Plissken is THE definition of antihero."
Really.
Try John Proctor from 'The Crucible'. Or the narrator of 'Notes from Underground'.
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The-Road-Warrior — 15 years ago(July 09, 2010 06:25 PM)
i only watched it a few minutes ago and i love sci-fi
its pretty good but still i feel it had a great concept just well the movie wasnt as good
the performances were mixed
yes kurt russel is very cool in this but his performance is annoying. he whispers half the time.
another thing is that while it was an action movie there wasnt much action sequences (the rest were just kills)
i give it 7/10
worth watching if you like sci-fi and have the time
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ThrashGordon88 — 15 years ago(July 13, 2010 06:20 PM)
Atmosphere, Kurt Russell, plot, retro-cool factor (weapons, gadgets, MUSIC and 'future 1997' scenario). If I'm going to be honest I'd give this film 8/10 (I'd much rather be ' oh, what the hell!' and give it a 10/10), but its still awesome. On a serious note I felt this film has more in common with the action films of the 70s rather than 80s, cause ya know, there are some interesting contrasts between those two eras of film-making for the Action genre
Btw this film was released 8 years before my birth, so you can politely do away with a 'my generation' speech.
Anyway, essential viewing for any fan of 'alternative history', dystopian sci-fi, and people who wants to know why a certain famous computer game character was dedicated to the main protaganist in this film (I'll give you a hint whispers 'Because he's awesome')
Oh and don't get me started on people who call films like this 'dated' just, don't. -
SPaS — 14 years ago(January 29, 2012 02:32 PM)
I just watched the movie (again!), decided to check the IMDB page, followed this thread and here I am.
This thread started well from the get-go, the lost its tracks and now got back on.
TG88, you nailed it. It's just like you say it.
In order to understand, you have to realize how much ahead of his time John Carpenter relly was. This came a year before Blade Runner and three years before the first Terminator (btw. James Cameron worked as a matte painter on this one). John Carpenter capitalised with cyberpunk property (William Gibson ("Mona Lisa overdrive") credits this as an influence) much like George Lucas capitalised on comic-book/sci-fi property with "Star Wars".
With this movie Kurt Russell also VERY succesfully shed his Disney - skin.
To fully realize this, picture Selena Gomez winning a Bafta award. Not impossible, just extremely unlikely.
Actually I think the movie is "only" three and a half stars out of five, and the Snake Plissken character is five plus stars out of five. One of the few badasses on screen I buy despite what comes out of their mouths. Because if I don't, they come out of the screen and bang my head against my keyboarosieggnlkbgjbafkdfibdf-klndfvknldbv0griorenwjg. b-odbpodb -nkgr-nlgw-ngrn -
seth_bouldin — 15 years ago(July 30, 2010 11:20 AM)
The most important reason: The character of Solid Snake was developed from Snake Plissken. He even uses the last name of "Plissken" when going under cover in MGS2
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Lolballs — 15 years ago(August 01, 2010 05:46 AM)
Spoilers and sorry for all the text.. four cups of coffee.
I first saw this movie when I was ten years old and have loved it ever since. I notice details now that I didn't think about back then however. Most of those only serve to make me like it more! Like when early on in the film Snake gets shot in the leg by a crossbow. It says Snake may be a very experienced killer but in the first real confrontation with the badguys, realistically bad luck still applies to him. He's wounded and spends the rest of the film limping around. Shortly after that he's captured and goes unconsious and when he wakes up it is suddenly daylight. He's lost his wrist watch (that counts down to his death) and isn't sure exactly how long he was out. The sun could be setting again in thirty minutes for all he knows.
There's an unspoken desperation throughout the movie that really creeps up on you, or me atleast. His choice to rip up the tape at the end just shows that Snake truly has no loyalties, he's not "the bigger man" and it's just so plain badass as it can get. He may even be something of a psychopath, well maybe not, but his behaviour is so unpredictable and self serving. Interesting nonetheless to have this character be the "hero" of the film. A true antihero.
Also the atmosphere is just really dark and gritty without overdoing it, the camerawork and use of light and shadows is beautiful. The soundtrack is one of the coolest ever and the use of old synthesizers are popular these days so it doesn't feel as odd now as it perhaps did ten years ago.
I was born the same year "Escape.." came out so I guess I'm pretty young for a die hard fan of this film. I CAN however see why teens today don't go crazy for this movie as it is almost thirty years old, it was low budget even then and there is no unrealistic spectacular action. It has aged, but not as badly as most films from around it's time. -
ccr1633 — 15 years ago(August 13, 2010 09:34 AM)
Hi samuel-84. I feel I am missing something when I see a semi-trollish character such as yourself fishing for explanations as to why people like a movie, without offering up even a single opinion of your own about the film. Please can I get some feedback as to what you did not enjoy about escape from NY.