Abscence of Homosexuality in the film
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jharmon64 — 10 years ago(November 02, 2015 02:48 AM)
no homosexuality = better film
In this case, yes.
I find that too often films get 'too many plots' for lack of a better term.
If you really think about this filmthere is A LOT going on here. Tons of back stories and sub plots.
We didn't need to show something that's assumed.
Thank you to No Escape for leaving that out.
Creasy: Okay, my friend. It's off to the next life for you. I guarantee you, you won't be lonely.. -
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sambuca — 20 years ago(March 22, 2006 08:46 PM)
"obvious path" hmmm ok
Like how many films have you heard of (let alone seen) where very macho characters get involved in homosexual relationships (even if by lack of choice)?
Or do you expect all mainstream movie "gay" characters to be limp-wristed caricatures? It would be nice to have a subversion every once in a while
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eatstribbles — 19 years ago(August 05, 2006 12:01 AM)
considering the review of this film on the main page relates it to the shawshank (which is simply wrong) which is a great film and does present the horrors of prison life and rape. another being the butterfly effect ( though it does not go through with it so I would argue that this film simply ignored a socialy and politically charged topic and stuck to the battle for freedom and survival. I dont think that considering the insiders situation sex and relationships would have added anyting to the film it is about getting free and getting the truth out. if liota had stayed at the camp, the outsides destroyed and he accepted his situation for the rest of his life the love angle would have been a plausable plot eliment but in credit to the film for at least identifying this trouble point, they do allude to homosexuality in a couple of places. firstly, merric is a bit fem for his rather macho position, "think ya' gunna love it." two, the fat man, tom, is gay. three, if you look at some of the outsiders have feminine attire, speciffically the guy wearing the mask made to look like a over made up woman (single shot at the final raid)
When asked why Lord of the Flies didnt have any girls in it, william H, Golding responded that it would of course bring sex into the story, or at least the possibility, and he didnt want the story to be about that. he wanted to focus on the nature of men, small boys acting as men and the good and eveil inherant in our beings. In the same way the directory removed the sexual eliment from even the sub plot to focus on the nature of the characters that have devided themselves into civil and uncivilised. Ultimately the decission to not bring sex, though frightening, would have distracted from the important eliments of the film. friendship, good, bad, and freedom. -
everythingtodowithhurting — 19 years ago(June 23, 2006 05:19 PM)
stiv-7,
I wasn't lamenting abscence of explicit sex scenes, I'm just suprised that barely an allusion was made to the possibility. There are many things that they could have done besides an man on man scene that probably would not only have been a bit more realistic (I say that realizing this is science fiction) but also add to the scariness of the island by introducing the possibilty of forced sexual encounters. -
Argantonis — 19 years ago(August 14, 2006 09:25 PM)
Yeah well maybe direct homosexuality, but the movie is packed with some obvious, some not so obvious hints about homosexuality. For example, think about the relationship between Casey and Robbins. Or that traitor King.
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rb_dante — 19 years ago(August 16, 2006 04:26 PM)
Hey, just because they are killers and whatnot, doesnt mean they need to stoop as low as homosexuality, i mean they probably got morals and ethics in their own special ways!
And since everyday is a struggle for survival, will they get bored long enough to even think about it? People who notice the so called "subtle tell signs" are obviously reading too much into that crap and seeing what they want too lol.