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    fritali04 — 11 years ago(December 05, 2014 01:46 PM)

    Sorry, I'm bored this afternoon
    The elves seem to be immortal, so why is the Ancient Elf (Burgess Meredith) so old?
    I admit I haven't seen this movie in years, so maybe they provided an explanation that I have forgotten.
    This is Dorsia?

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      Ditto-head — 11 years ago(December 13, 2014 06:03 PM)

      Maybe he was really old already when he became an elf, and the aging process was halted then but couldn't be reversed. I used to wonder what happened to him after that scene. He was obviously supposed to be really important to the elves, yet we never saw him again.

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        phantomF-12 — 11 years ago(December 17, 2014 02:47 AM)

        I initially thought he was supposed to be Father Time, but then the credits list him as "Ancient Elf" so

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          mlaiuppa — 10 years ago(December 21, 2015 12:06 PM)

          Even though it says ancient elf I always thought of him as the original Saint Nicholas.
          It was never stated but I thought his magic gradually aged him.
          If You look at Santa, it looks like he gradually ages too. When he first goes to the North Pole there is some color in his hair and beard. By the time it's the 80s he's all white.

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            avilos — 10 years ago(December 27, 2015 02:09 PM)

            Interesting. When I was a kid my whole family also thought he was the original Saint Nicholas.

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              PopperTheKungFuDragn — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 02:13 PM)

              I agree. He's probably the original Saint Nicholas.
              Poorly Lived and Poorly Died, Poorly Buried and No One Cried

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                Eric-62-2 — 3 months ago(December 08, 2025 11:16 AM)

                I'm glad someone else thought of that idea of Meredith being the original St. Nicholas. If they REALLY wanted to give the origin of Santa the same kind of reverential treatment that defines the first Superman movie, that would have been the obvious thing to do, and that "Claus" represented a "changing of the guard" moment. It also would have at least given us a very tiny but not insignificant concession to the fact that Christmas existed before Santa because it was a religious holiday. That idea I'm sure more easily would have occurred to the Superman I team of Richard Donner and Tom Mankiewicz and not to the comedy oriented team of the Newmans.

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                  tonganprince — 10 years ago(December 24, 2015 07:34 AM)

                  He's god.
                  They are all dead!

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                    Guely — 4 years ago(July 21, 2021 07:47 AM)

                    Must be like the smurfs!

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