Battlestar Galactica
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hungryinconway — 2 years ago(January 27, 2024 10:27 PM)
Religion was in the show from the get-go - and it was a major component too.
This is what is being discussed. You trying to change it has zero impact on the religious themes present throughout the entire series, fag.
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MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(January 27, 2024 10:33 PM)
As I wrote in my first post, my objection wasn't that there was any religion at all, just the execution of those themes. More specifically, I think the metaphysical/supernatural stuff didn't work and was garbage, since it wasn't supported "from the get-go" in any way, shape, or form.
That's just bad writing, and my point still stands.
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MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(January 28, 2024 01:28 AM)
Again, and I don't understand how this simple point keeps getting ignored, but my objection to the religious aspects of the show are about the EXECUTION, not that there were religious aspects to begin with.
There was no need to introduce actual bullshit metaphysical and supernatural elements that had never been built up prior to the conclusion. -
MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(January 28, 2024 01:17 PM)
Thank you, I had forgotten about that stuff.
Gauis seeing No. 6 was indeed there from the beginning, and while it annoyed me even then, I had always hoped for a completely naturalistic explanation, like guilt-induced psychosis or something.
My preference would have been, always, that the show be
SCIENCE
fiction and not about supernatural agencies guiding the characters, so a better version would have explained away all the seemingly magical occurrences with advanced tech, a misunderstanding, anything other than what they ultimately did.
If, as a writer, your inclinations are to stuff the supernatural into a context that is normally "just" science fiction, then you need to weave it into the story from the beginning, make it essential to the story, and be clear early on that this is a possible direction the story could go, even if you are coy about it.
(While not obviously science fiction (yet!), Yellowjackets is an example of writers doing this well. Right now at the end of season 2, we don't know if the girls are being plagued by a wendigo or just experiencing starvation induced psychosis. It could go either way, and the foundation for either path was in place from the first episodes.)
And to make things worse, now that I've researched the finale some more, it is clear that they didn't just go supernatural, they completely ignored established facts about evolutionary biology–the whole Mitochondrial Eve thing was a textbook case of writers who use concepts they literally don't understand at all. I hate the finale even more, now! -
MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(January 28, 2024 09:33 PM)
This is a tiresome argument that always gets trotted out to make excuses for bad, lazy writing.
We don't need to know everything about how the universe works to know SOME things with as much certainty as is possible, and a few of the things we know is that this show made spectacular errors in the finale that cannot be waived away with "science fiction = anything goes" nonsense. The writers literally had no idea what "mitochondrial Eve" means and didn't care. They were lazy.
(Oh, and you're forgetting that the show takes place in the past.) -
kuatorises — 2 years ago(February 01, 2024 11:33 PM)
The "I hate the ending because it was religious" crowd always baffled me. The show always had elements of religion, mythology, etc. Fucking idiots. People who get triggered by religion in fiction have problems.