I am so sick of movies about born-again white men delivering 'justice'
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ryderdvs — 14 years ago(August 21, 2011 07:50 AM)
How about the "Hobo with a Shotgun" trailer starring Rutger Hauer?
The studio execs are pitching it something like this:
"Okay, so we don't really have a script yet. But..we have a title. MACHINE..GUNPREACHER. Get it? It's edgy, because you have a man of the cloth.whose supposed to be about peace and harmony..yet he totes a firearm. Pretty great, huh?!" -
IceboxMovies — 14 years ago(August 21, 2011 01:59 PM)
Sergeant York. Mississippi Burning. Glory. Dances with Wolves. The Help. Movies like this are always designed to make white people in the audiences feel better about themselves. "Oooh, good thing that all-knowing white man went out to conquer racism/violence, so that we don't have to!"
"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter." -
jclarke@attglobal.net — 14 years ago(September 11, 2011 04:22 AM)
Sergeant York. Mississippi Burning. Glory. Dances with Wolves. The Help. Movies like this are always designed to make white people in the audiences feel better about themselves. "Oooh, good thing that all-knowing white man went out to conquer racism/violence, so that we don't have to!"
Sergeant York? You might want to watch that one again. -
guasco-2 — 14 years ago(August 23, 2011 05:13 AM)
I find it hilarious that you're sick of movies like this, as if saying this is another hollywood propaganda kind of fiction when in actuality its a true story.
Its a true story dude. Its not a fiction written by some biased writer trying to promote his/her views on the world.
This is the world.
"God doesn't make the world the way it isWe Do"Rorschach.
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IceboxMovies — 14 years ago(August 23, 2011 07:55 PM)
I find it hilarious that you're sick of movies like this, as if saying this is another hollywood propaganda kind of fiction when in actuality its a true story.
How is "it's a true story" even remotely a valid defense to make yet
another
movie like this?
"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter." -
IceboxMovies — 14 years ago(August 24, 2011 03:45 PM)
Animosities towards white men much?
I am a white man. That doesn't mean I approve of the ridiculous glorification of my race (at the expense of other races) in the industry.
You know, you don't have to watch it. Remember that.
No. I have no reason to "remember" stupid advice like that. I want movies like this to
STOP BEING MADE
so that they stop poisoning the minds of the naive white people who ARE watching them. What part of that don't you understand?
"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter." -
IceboxMovies — 14 years ago(August 24, 2011 09:49 PM)
You have a thing against true stories?
Uhh,
Patch Adams
was "based on a true story".
Radio
was "based on a true story."
The Rookie
was "based on a true story".
Walking Tall
was "based on a true story". Were any of them good movies? In short, no.
So what's your logic? If a movie is "based on a true story", no matter how exaggerated, then it's automatically good? Wow.
What is poisoning anyone's minds exactly?
The concept that black people can't survive without a jingoistic, born-again white man holding their hands. That is racist, imperialist and above all
wrong
.
You obviously have issues with white men regarded as heroes.
Well. I take it, then, that you feel threatened by my posts because you are white and because you're afraid of your oh-so-victimized white race being discredited even in the least.
Now it's WHITE AUDIENCES!
Exactly. If manipulated enough, a mass white audience will totally embrace a self-congratulatory movie that gives thanks to them for being the superior race: the one that, you know, takes care of those poor black people because according to them to quote a Sterling Silliphant screenplay black people need care, and feeding, and cultivatingand that takes time. Yes, I pity those naive white audiences (yourself included).
Oh, and you still don't have to watch the movie or listen to such stories of heroics either.
The point of film criticism is to rip apart even the most evil of movies. If you disagree, then it's a wonder you post on the IMDB at all.
"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter." -
IceboxMovies — 14 years ago(August 25, 2011 02:31 PM)
Did you piss and moan when those movies were about to be released, too?
I was offended by them, yes. And so were millions of others especially by
Patch Adams
. Where've you
been
, fool?
That you have animosities and issues against white men and their stories of heroism. Think before you type.
So you don't think there's anything wrong with glorifying a born-again white man who kills in the name of Christianity while all the other people in the movie (i.e. black people) are reduced to victims and villains? I hate to break it to you, but that's how Social Darwinism comes about.
Nonsense. No one said they couldn't survive without a white man. He's just there to help.
Oh, really? And you think black audiences will embrace this movie just as much as the gullible whites do?
This is about a movie based on a true story.
Who CARES?
Mississippi Burning
was supposedly based on a true story as well, and look how black audiences reacted to that movie. Even Coretta Scott King decried it as another one of those movies where blacks couldn't get along without the reactionary assistance of a whites. Have you any idea how inferior that makes the black race look?
What's superior about just helping people, regardless of race?
Except the guy in this movie is not just "helping" people. He's killing in the name of Christianity. That's disgusting.
By the way you don't understand. There are two kinds of movies about "whites helping others": one about a white man with an overinflated ego; another in which the white man/woman is practically hero-worshipped. In the former, we've gotten some of the best movies ever made Lean's
Lawrence of Arabia
, for example. In the latter, we've gotten some truly offensive movies like
Mississippi Burning, The Help
and
Sergeant York
.
Ask yourself: if you were a black man/woman, do you think you'd like a movie like
Machine Gun Preacher
as much as a white person? You honestly wouldn't have a problem with a movie being made in which the essential message is that your race couldn't get along without a supposedly "Christian" white man holding your hand?
"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter." -
LennonCAP — 14 years ago(March 02, 2012 03:55 PM)
Wow! Until I read your post, honestly the thought that he was a white person who saved the day never crossed my mind until now, my thoughts on MGP was he was a man, human you get my point. I do have alot of friends who are brothers and they feel the same. Just a good movie, and if Chillders was a black man, i'd feel the same.
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Modern-Prometheus — 14 years ago(August 25, 2011 04:47 PM)
Sois this your way of saying that white people aren't allowed to help black people in need as far as cinema goes? For someone who seems so concerned about racism, you sure don't seem to want to get rid of it. As long as stupid BS like this is such a big deal to people, racism will be kept alive.
vampires don't sparkle