The real Che Guevara
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(July 01, 2019 02:58 AM)
The system he worked to destroy created more death and suffering than Guevara ever did. Yeah, the guy sounds like a loon. But the man he and Castro replaced, Batista, unleashed far more destruction on the Cuban people than Guevara ever did. It was a bankrupt system fueled by the American mob and run by Batista who is credited with the deaths of 20,000 people.
Sure, not every revolutionary is a sweetheart. But balance it against what they replaced.
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Yermom_Is_God — 6 years ago(July 12, 2019 06:24 AM)
He was a brutal, evil person who killed tons of people, including gays for being gays, but the left loves him because he was a Communist. Obama in Cuba taking a picture with the Che Guevara mural on the building behind him was as terrible at Trump meeting with Kim Jong Un and having our flags hang right next to the NK flags behind them. Difference is Trump is just dumb, Obama knew what he was doing.
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(July 14, 2019 11:16 PM)
During the Cuban missile crisis on October 1962, Che demanded that nuclear war be unleashed on the United States. He told British reporter Sam Russell that
“if the nuclear missiles had been under Cuban control (during the Cuban missile crisis), they would have fired them off.”
Reportedly, he was disappointed when Khrushchev decided to draw back his weapons in the missile crisis.
"If the rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York, in our defense against aggression."
And a couple of years later, at the United Nations, he was true to form:
“As Marxists we have maintained that peaceful coexistence among nations does not include coexistence between exploiters and the exploited.”
On December 11, 1964, during a debate in the United Nations General Assembly where Guevara represented the Cuban government, this was severely attacked because of the firing squad executions without any judicial process and evidence as required by the rule of law. Guevara, on his own voiced, responded:
“Shooting people yes, we have shoot people and will continuous to do so until it will be required.”
[1] This show that he was a person convinced of what he was doing, and could care less and has not any prejudice to send to the firing squad a lot of people, on condition that his points of view will prevail.
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(July 21, 2019 06:33 AM)
In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinental”:
“hatred is an element of struggle; relentless hatred of the enemy that impels us over and beyond the natural limitations of man and transforms us into effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machines. Our soldiers must be thus; a people without hatred cannot vanquish a brutal enemy.”
This use of hatred to encourage the dehumanization of ones enemy is but another manifestation of the doctrine found throughout the centuries to justify mass murder and torture.
“Che shout to his captors in Bolivia,
“Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!”.
Then why didn't he save his last bullet for himself? He could only beg for his life. The murderous, cowardly and epically stupid little weasel named Che Guevara in Bolivia, got a major dose of his own medicine. Justice has never been better served. [7]
[7] Humberto Fontova, “The Real Che Guevara”, NewsMax.com, June 25, 2002”
Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.” -
victorin1 — 6 years ago(July 27, 2019 07:19 AM)
Che Guevara, who did so much to destroy capitalism, is now a quintessential capitalist brand. His likeness adorns mugs, lighters, key chains, wallets, baseball caps, toques, bandannas, tank tops, club shirts, couture bags, denim jeans, herbal tea, and of course those omnipresent T-shirts with the photograph, taken by Alberto Korda… It is not surprising that Guevara’s contemporary followers, his new post-communist admirers, also delude themselves by clinging to a myth—except the young Argentines who have come up with an expression that rhymes perfectly in Spanish: “Tengo una remera del Che y no sé por qué,” or “I have a Che T-shirt and I don’t know why…Thanks to Che's own testimonials, his thoughts and his deeds, we now know exactly how deluded so many of our contemporaries are about him.-The Killing Machine: Che Guevara, from Communist Firebrand to Capitalist Brand - Alvaro Vargas Llosa, The New Republic, July 11, 2005.
The worshipers of Che aren’t rebels or peace activists. They are tools promoting the harmful legacy of collectivism and the havoc it has brought all over the world.
Che's legacy in Cuba is one neighbor spying on another, high suicide rates, and a generation of young Cubans risking their lives on rafts in the Florida Straits rather than continue to live under a despotic government. Che's true legacy is simply one of terror and murder. -
𝐸𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝑅𝑒𝓃𝑒—𝒫𝓇𝒾𝒸𝑒
— 6 years ago(July 27, 2019 09:39 AM)He was a complete wacko. And people wear his image to commemorate him having no idea what kind of monster he was.
If Che Guevara was alive today he would shoot anyone wearing a t shirt with his image on it.
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(August 02, 2019 04:54 AM)
The racism of Che Guevara
Che didn't think much of Mexicans. In 1956 while residing in Mexico, Che refer to the Mexican as:
"a band of illiterate Indians."
Che also delighted in belittling blacks.
"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving,"
that's Che himself in his celebrated Motorcycle Diaries. Can't imagine how Robert Redford left that out of his charming movie.
In his diaries Che also referred to Bolivian villagers as "animalitos" (little animals.) Wonder if Evo Morales has read them? He's too busy ribbon-cutting Che monuments in Bolivian villages -
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(August 06, 2019 04:50 AM)
The racism of Che Guevara
Quotes from the book “The Motorcycle Diaries: Notes on a Latin America Journey”
“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."
"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.”
That's Che himself delighted in belittling blacks in his celebrated Motorcycle Diaries. Can't imagine how Robert Redford left that out of his charming movie.
In reference to the Bolivian peasants, Che wrote in his Diary in Bolivia on June 19, 1967
“the inhabitants one must hunt them to be able to speak with them because they are like little animals.”
Wonder if Evo Morales has read them? He's too busy ribbon-cutting Che monuments in Bolivian villages.
Che didn't think much of Mexicans. In 1956 while residing in Mexico, Che refer to the Mexican as:
"a band of illiterate Indians."
Miguel Sánchez, “el coreano”, Che’s comrade in Mexico responsible of the military instruction of Castro’s Granma expeditionary force.
During a 1959 press conference Luis Pons, a prominent Cuban black, asked Che Guevara, what the revolution planed on doing to help blacks. Che answered:
“We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.”
Humberto Fontova, Exposing the real Che Guevara, April 2007. -
victorin1 — 6 years ago(September 02, 2019 07:21 AM)
Guevara’s elevation as symbol of goodness, due to the self-indulgence and frivolity of pampered Western pseudo revolutionaries, speaks clearly of their lack of critical objective analysis, forgetting that, as Anthony Daniels states, "The difference between ‘Che’ Guevara and Pol Pot was that Guevara never studied in Paris."
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(September 09, 2019 12:15 AM)
In 1956, when Che linked up with Fidel, Raul and their Cuban chums in Mexico city, one of them (now in exile) recalls Che railing against the Hungarian freedom-fighters as "Fascists!" and cheering their extermination by Soviet tanks.
In 1962 Che got a chance to do more than cheer from the sidelines. He had a hand in the following:
"Cuban militia units commanded by Russian officers employed flame-throwers to burn the palm-thatched cottages in the Escambray countryside. The peasant occupants were accused of feeding the counterrevolutionaries and bandits."
At one point in 1962, one of every 19 Cubans was a political prisoner. Fidel himself admits that they faced 179 bands of "counter-revolutionaries" and "bandits."
Humberto Fontova, “Che the ‘Guerrilla Fighter’ – Literally!” LewRockwell.com, August 15, 2005 (
http://www.lewrockwell.com/fontova/fontova52.html
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(September 14, 2019 11:21 PM)
Humberto Fontova,
Che Guevara: Assasin and Bumbler
, The Cuban American National Foundation, Feb. 23, 2004
Che Guevara was monumentally vain and epically stupid. He was shallow, boorish, cruel, and cowardly. He was full of himself, a consummate fraud and an intellectual vacuum. He was intoxicated with a few vapid slogans, spoke in cliches and was a glutton for publicity. But ah! he did come out nice in a couple of publicity photos, high cheekbones and all! And we wonder why he's a hit in Hollywood?
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Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(September 14, 2019 11:44 PM)
Are you one of those Mariel boat people or something? Or Ricky Ricardo's ghost? Why are you obsessed with Che Guevara?
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victorin1 — 6 years ago(September 26, 2019 06:45 PM)
The Real Che
One thing is certain: Guevara’s desire for the development of the New Man did not emerge from his empirical experience of actual men. In the Motorcycle Diaries, he meets many excellent and indeed magnificent men, rich and poor alike. Guevara’s desire for the development of the New Man, I believe, comes from his need to control the lives of others, his urge to power. With unique lack of self-knowledge, with an absolute absence of irony, he describes the character of Valdivia, the conquistador of Chile:
Valdivia’s actions symbolize man’s indefatigable thirst to take control of a place where he can exercise total control… . He belonged to that special class of men the species produces every so often, in whom a craving for limitless power is so extreme that any suffering to achieve it seems natural.
Could there be a better description of Guevara’s career itself?
In presenting Guevara as a romantic figure, generous and compassionate rather than ruthlessly priggish and self-centered, and by suggesting that he has anything to teach us other than negatively, the director is guilty of mendacity of a very high order. The film is an exercise in moral frivolity and exhibitionism, self-congratulation, of course, opportunism. It should sell as well as Guevara T-shirts.-Anthony Daniels, New Criterion, October, 2004.
Che’s New Man: Fanatics, liars, assassins and failed men, reaching the total realization of being like Che. -
twinA — 6 years ago(September 26, 2019 09:10 PM)
The man was a big hypocrite, really loving mega capitalistic Coca-Cola.
The problem with many revolutionaries is that, all too often, they want to change everything too fast and too quickly, not caring for the fact that everyone needs to be involved and not excluded instead of being made an enemy of the "New Order".
The best example of other people changing the course of an entire countries history and identity, look no further than the nearly 1,000 year reign of the Normans over Great Britain. In the past, it was directly. Today, it is indirectly and they own 80% of the island.
To get a better idea, look at some of the shows and movies about "Robin Hood".
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