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    filmflaneur — 2 months ago(January 31, 2026 08:03 PM)

    BOOMSHIT said...
    But it is not defined by it, the point here. I hope that helps.
    it literally is. without sex, gender would not exist
    This may be the case, but the point is ultimately an
    non-sequitur
    to the points I have been making, such as the fact that sex is immutable while gender is not; the latter is not defined by the former; or that one is biological fact and the other a social construct. But thank you for playing.
    I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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      BOOMSHIT — 2 months ago(January 31, 2026 09:07 PM)

      filmflaneur said...
      This may be the case, but the point is ultimately an
      non-sequitur
      to the points I have been making, such as the fact that sex is immutable while gender is not; the latter is not defined by the former; or that one is biological fact and the other a social construct. But thank you for playing.
      latter is not defined by the former
      it literally is and there is no way to explain it's existence outside of the context of sex which is why you don't even bother trying
      jestergooning

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        filmflaneur — 1 month ago(February 02, 2026 07:45 PM)

        BOOMSHIT said...
        latter is not defined by the former
        it literally is and there is no way to explain it's existence outside of the context of sex which is why you don't even bother trying
        sigh Gender is not strictly defined by biological sex; they are considered distinct concepts by major health organizations and social scientists. Sex refers to biological characteristics (chromosomes, anatomy), while gender refers to a person's internal sense of self (identity) and socially constructed roles, which may or may not align with their birth sex.
        I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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          BOOMSHIT — 1 month ago(February 02, 2026 08:26 PM)

          filmflaneur said...
          sigh Gender is not strictly defined by biological sex; they are considered distinct concepts by major health organizations and social scientists. Sex refers to biological characteristics (chromosomes, anatomy), while gender refers to a person's internal sense of self (identity) and socially constructed roles, which may or may not align with their birth sex.
          Gender is not strictly defined by biological sex
          yes it is, and that's why you can't explain how it isn't
          they are considered distinct concepts by major health organizations and social scientists
          saying something doesn't make it true. these organizations are ideologically driven and are not using science driven conclusions.
          gender refers to a person's internal sense of self
          gender serves no purpose without sex. I dare you to explain how it does. until you can do that then you have no proven your claim.
          socially constructed roles, which may or may not align with their birth sex.
          there are only 2 gender roles and they are defined by our reproductive roles. there is a reason why doing a full sex change renders humans infertile.
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            filmflaneur — 1 month ago(February 02, 2026 09:44 PM)

            BOOMSHIT said...
            Gender is not strictly defined by biological sex
            yes it is, and that's why you can't explain how it isn't
            they are considered distinct concepts by major health organizations and social scientists
            saying something doesn't make it true. these organizations are ideologically driven and are not using science driven conclusions.
            gender refers to a person's internal sense of self
            gender serves no purpose without sex. I dare you to explain how it does. until you can do that then you have no proven your claim.
            socially constructed roles, which may or may not align with their birth sex.
            there are only 2 gender roles and they are defined by our reproductive roles. there is a reason why doing a full sex change renders humans infertile.
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            Gender is strictly defined by biological sex [and] you can't explain how it isn't
            You mean like when I repeat here that its because they represent two different, albeit related, concepts: sex refers to biological, anatomical, and genetic characteristics, while gender refers to a person's internal, social, and cultural identity. While sex is generally classified as female or male based on gametes, chromosomes, and hormones, gender is an individual's sense of being a man, woman, or another identity which may, or may not, align with the sex they were assigned at birth? Right.
            saying something doesn't make it true
            Like when you say "these organizations are ideologically driven and are not using science driven conclusions." ? lol But repeating what a wide consensus is does not make it false, either. As I have asked before, who ought one give more weight to: the many professional and academic authorities with expertise in the area - or the equivalent of the man in the pub that you equate to?
            gender serves no purpose without sex. I dare you to explain how it does
            sigh haven't I done this already? Please look back. Yours is a simplistic and somewhat outdated gender essentialism reflecting a viewpoint of gender exclusively as a social interpretation or expression of biological sex. Most these days see gender a separate, more complex, and often independent aspect of human identity. Gender is, for the last time, primarily a social, psychological, and cultural organization tool used by societies to categorize individuals, define roles, and structure relationships. Unlike biological sex, which refers to physiological characteristics (like chromosomes and reproductive organs), gender is a changeable social construct. Glad to help.
            there are only 2 gender roles and they are defined by our reproductive roles
            Again this is both overly traditional, simplistic and does not reflect the real world. While biological sex is defined by reproductive roles anthropologists and social scientists distinguish this from gender roles, which vary significantly across cultures and time. In addition as, once again said before on this thread many cultures historically and currently recognize more than two gender roles. In some historical contexts, individuals adopted roles opposite to their biological sex for social or religious reasons. While some theories once linked gender roles strictly to reproductive "destiny," decades of research show flexibility in how labour is divided. In many foraging and agricultural societies, women participate in hunting or heavy labour, and men are actively involved in primary childcare. And so on.
            But now, as you are just hopelessly repeating yourself leading me to boring replies, that is all from me. Have a nice day.
            I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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              BOOMSHIT — 1 month ago(February 02, 2026 11:12 PM)

              filmflaneur said...
              Gender is strictly defined by biological sex [and] you can't explain how it isn't
              You mean like when I repeat here that its because they represent two different, albeit related, concepts: sex refers to biological, anatomical, and genetic characteristics, while gender refers to a person's internal, social, and cultural identity. While sex is generally classified as female or male based on gametes, chromosomes, and hormones, gender is an individual's sense of being a man, woman, or another identity which may, or may not, align with the sex they were assigned at birth? Right.
              saying something doesn't make it true
              Like when you say "these organizations are ideologically driven and are not using science driven conclusions." ? lol But repeating what a wide consensus is does not make it false, either. As I have asked before, who ought one give more weight to: the many professional and academic authorities with expertise in the area - or the equivalent of the man in the pub that you equate to?
              gender serves no purpose without sex. I dare you to explain how it does
              sigh haven't I done this already? Please look back. Yours is a simplistic and somewhat outdated gender essentialism reflecting a viewpoint of gender exclusively as a social interpretation or expression of biological sex. Most these days see gender a separate, more complex, and often independent aspect of human identity. Gender is, for the last time, primarily a social, psychological, and cultural organization tool used by societies to categorize individuals, define roles, and structure relationships. Unlike biological sex, which refers to physiological characteristics (like chromosomes and reproductive organs), gender is a changeable social construct. Glad to help.
              there are only 2 gender roles and they are defined by our reproductive roles
              Again this is both overly traditional, simplistic and does not reflect the real world. While biological sex is defined by reproductive roles anthropologists and social scientists distinguish this from gender roles, which vary significantly across cultures and time. In addition as, once again said before on this thread many cultures historically and currently recognize more than two gender roles. In some historical contexts, individuals adopted roles opposite to their biological sex for social or religious reasons. While some theories once linked gender roles strictly to reproductive "destiny," decades of research show flexibility in how labour is divided. In many foraging and agricultural societies, women participate in hunting or heavy labour, and men are actively involved in primary childcare. And so on.
              But now, as you are just hopelessly repeating yourself leading me to boring replies, that is all from me. Have a nice day.
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              when I repeat here that its because they represent two different, albeit related, concepts: sex refers to biological, anatomical, and genetic characteristics, while gender refers to a person's internal, social, and cultural identity
              saying something doesn't make it true
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                filmflaneur — 1 month ago(February 03, 2026 06:12 PM)

                BOOMSHIT said...
                when I repeat here that its because they represent two different, albeit related, concepts: sex refers to biological, anatomical, and genetic characteristics, while gender refers to a person's internal, social, and cultural identity
                saying something doesn't make it true
                One final thing: if one says saying something does not make something true, then saying that is not necessarily true by its own reasoning. See how it works, lol?
                I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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                  BOOMSHIT — 1 month ago(February 03, 2026 06:40 PM)

                  filmflaneur said...
                  One final thing: if one says saying something does not make something true, then saying that is not necessarily true by its own reasoning. See how it works, lol?
                  you've been defeated
                  jestergooning

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                    filmflaneur — 1 month ago(February 05, 2026 01:33 PM)

                    BOOMSHIT said...
                    you've been defeated
                    "saying something does not make something true"
                    I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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                      Factcheck․fart — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 09:52 AM)

                      Wrong. If you elect a retard who believes in such nonsense then you have a retard making policy decisions. A retard at the wheel. That affects everyone just as surely as having a drunk at the wheel affects everyone else in the vehicle.
                      A retard at the wheel? You mean someone that threatens war with our allies for no reason and is driving world opinion about the United States down the drain? Those are the issues I care about. Ones that actually matter to the future of this country. But keep obsessing about tranny cock.

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                        Soul_Venom — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 04:55 PM)

                        You TDS sufferers panic and **** yourselves every time Trump.so much as twitches in his sleep. There have been no threats of war. Just tough talk aimed at bring people to the negotiation table and it seems to have worked. Trump seems to have gotten what he was REALLY after yesterday during the talks. You TDS morons haven't even figured out what he did yet.
                        Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                          Helter_Skeletor — 2 months ago(January 20, 2026 04:17 PM)

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                            BleedTheFreak — 2 months ago(January 21, 2026 06:58 PM)

                            Some say we're born into the grave.

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                              filmflaneur — 2 months ago(January 21, 2026 10:18 PM)

                              The Dems are widely expected to gain control of at least one if not both Houses come the mid-terms. And that still gives Defendant Donald another 9-10 months to **** things further.
                              I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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                                Soul_Venom — 2 months ago(January 21, 2026 10:23 PM)

                                He isnt ****ing anything you dipshit. He has been fixing **** that both parties ****ed up [most dems] for decades.
                                Cutting waste, correcting foreign policy, removing dictators, unfucking all the **** dems deliberately trashed when they realized they would lose in 2024, ending wars, balancing trade deficits, etc. Etc. Etc.
                                He has already accomplished more than biden did in 4 years.
                                Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                                  filmflaneur — 2 months ago(January 21, 2026 10:28 PM)

                                  dipshit
                                  Did you know that name-calling makes one look childish?
                                  He has already accomplished more than biden did in 4 years.
                                  Unfortunately, yes. He is now working on the destruction of the Western alliance, it would seem.
                                  He isnt ****ing anything
                                  I don't think the leaders of NATO or America's former friends around the world would take that view for a start.
                                  I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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                                    Soul_Venom — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 12:19 AM)

                                    makes one look childish?
                                    Do you think I care for the opinions of an idiot?
                                    on the destruction of the Western alliance
                                    No dumbass. We have been europes crutch for decades. Time for them to stand on their own. We will all be stronger for it.
                                    I don't think
                                    I've noticed
                                    would take that view
                                    You are talking about the retards who if they were here in America would have been democrats. Fuck what they think. Their own nations will move past them.
                                    Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                                      filmflaneur — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 02:49 PM)

                                      Do you think I care for the opinions of an idiot?… dumbass … the retards
                                      And yet, here you are. Also have I mentioned that name-calling just makes you look childish?
                                      We have been europes crutch for decades. Time for them to stand on their own.
                                      Asking them to stump up their fair share is not the same as acquiring another sovereign member of NATO "whether they like it or not".
                                      I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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                                        Soul_Venom — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 05:02 PM)

                                        You ****ing dunbass. Greenland is a negotiation tactic. Sounds like Trump got what he was really after yesterday during negotiations. You TDS retards are left wondering what the **** happened cause you never understood in the first place. He is deliberately keeping you buffoon panicked about WW3 and looking one direction while he does the real work somewhere else without the obstruction bullshit he dealt with the first term.
                                        You ****ing dumbass.
                                        You ****ing dumbass.
                                        You ****ing dumbass.
                                        Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                                          filmflaneur — 2 months ago(January 22, 2026 10:50 PM)

                                          Sounds like Trump got what he was really after yesterday during negotiations
                                          Really? I have heard nothing about a surrender of Greenland sovereignty - just a 'framework for discussion' where Denmark remains firm that ownership is not up to discussion. But I enjoyed your special pleading here.
                                          You ****ing dumbass.
                                          You ****ing dumbass.
                                          You ****ing dumbass.
                                          lol now you just appear three times as childish. See how it works?
                                          I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.

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