Why are you encouraging him to sin?
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 12, 2025 09:36 PM)
You seem a troll, but as I have time to spare and since real Xians are relatively quiet here:
I recently cut off contact with my own nephew because he questioned God's existence
Wow what an open mind you have… and, annoyingly for you here is such a one. It is striking that in this thread btw you are preaching to the converted, since by trying to exclude atheist, you are just make the argument for the necessity of a god to those already who, presumably, are credulous enough to believe in on. What would be the point of that?
Why do I despise atheists? Because they are insincere. They KNOW God exists and yet they lie about it.
First off, as an atheist don't tell me what I know. Second as a
negative
atheist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_atheism
I do not assert that your deity does not exist, merely that I do not believe in it. One is not contingent on the other.
we CAN prove that God exists
Oh dear.
Think about it like this. Nobody would think a house didn't have a builder or than a painting didn't have a painter.
Think about this then: your argument is just Paley's old watchmaker argument, nothing that convincing. In broad terms, the watchmaker analogy states that just as it is readily observed that a watch (e.g.: a pocket watch) did not come to be accidentally or on its own but rather through the intentional handiwork of a skilled watchmaker, it is also readily observed that nature did not come to be accidentally or on its own but through the intentional handiwork of an intelligent designer. The main problem is that it assumes that one cannot tell the difference between natural and artificial objects, between the slow incremental change worked by evolution over millions of years and something put together all at once. Can you? Such an inductive argument is not accepted as science because it is unfalsifiable.
I once even got into a fist fight for someone for buying a Richard Dawkins book at my local book store.
Here you troll too hard and are unconvincing.
So saying the universe has no creator just makes no sense.
And the logical reason why this necessary Cause of everything cannot be something wholly natural which is permanent is….
but NO ATHEISTS ALLOWED
Too bad, this is a public message board.
I just feel great passion for the truth
I doesn't sound like it, but it is a troll, so who cares?.
PS your moniker is misspelt lol Set up the account too hastily, I expect.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 12:36 PM)
I'm not interested in anything you have to say
And yet here you are again, with more trolling…
I did not make any spelling mistakes.
Defend Are Culture?
I used to encounter fool (sic) like you
An
ad hominem
is not an argument.
It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that creation doesn't have a creator.
I actually said that there is no logical reason why a Cause of everything cannot be wholly natural. So, strawman noted.
Books have authors, buildings have builders etc.
I already posted about what is in effect, just Paley's watchmaker argument and given good reason why it has been argued against.Sorry about that.
I'm gonna block you because people like YOU are exactly who I'm talking about in this thread.
Yeah, you do that - it will just seem as if you have no answer to my points.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 14, 2025 07:01 PM)
believe in defending are CHRISTIAN culture
OUR
not 'are'….
lying sons of bitches like you… fool and a jack weasel.
Oh dear. But as you are likely just a troll, I won't feel the loss.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 15, 2025 04:10 PM)
I know my spelling is correct
Then you are illiterate, or more likely still trolling.
Degenerate.
This another time when you are 'not insulting' atheists? LOL
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MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 05:27 AM)
No, you
cannot
prove that God exists. You only
BELIEVE
that he does. You have absolutely
NO
proof, and it's therefore
stupid and arrogant
to say that.
BTW, I'm an Agnostic.
MAGA! FAFO!
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 
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MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(January 14, 2025 06:50 AM)
No, you moron! The existence of God has
NEVER BEEN PROVED!
People just take it on faith. And that statement is also
NOT
proof that God exists, and you're
stupid
for believing it does! And I will never delete a comment to an idiot like you!
Dream on, moron!
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 14, 2025 07:04 PM)
as absurd as claiming a builder doesn't have a builder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy
For those here who otherwise might swallow such an old argument unchallenged.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(January 15, 2025 04:08 PM)
Not one person is able to justify why everything on earth needs a designer but the universe just happens to not need a creator.
Just because things look 'designed', or you want them to be, that does not mean that they are. How well is the human knee designed? Why do we have redundant organs? Why is most of the universe cold dark and empty? Why are we, presumably the pinnacle of God's creation plonked down, off-centre, in an average galaxy where, even on our own planet, most of the time we cannot survive without help? Everything we see has been arrived at through natural, demonstrable processes. And as already pointed out, the Cause of everything can be wholly natural - logical reasons why not appear not yet to be found by you.
And, what happened to putting me on ignore? Is preaching to the converted too dull for you?
I am very angry and really hope I get to be there to see your face when you are cast into Hell for your lies.
Whatever.
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.
