Fukin' Orange Bastards!
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WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(June 24, 2024 05:39 PM)
I take it then you really are not much more than just a keyboard warrior who has never once walked the walk or talked the talk in taking any action for a cause you believe in and was passionate about.
One sitting there and spouting off with their rants is pointless and meaningless.
Those who actually get off their butts and take action without harming anyone are the ones that matter.
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MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(June 25, 2024 06:17 AM)
Not true. I have taken action in several cases. So what causes have you
walked the walk
for, cheese eating surrender monkey? Are you out there on a picket line protesting the Ukrainian War which you hate so much?
MAGA! FAFO!
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 22, 2024 11:12 AM)
If you no longer want to get your panties in a bunch of twists and knots over what they do then make changes so they won't feel the need to protest like this anymore.
Exactly Warren
If the Jews had just stopped being Jewish the whole Holocaust could have been avoided. If the Palestinians could just stop being Palestinian the whole Middle East thing wouldn't be a problem. If the Yanks had just sucked it up Slavery wouldn't have had existed. If women could just keep quite sin wouldn't have happened and if men could just follow orders then there wouldn't be any corruption.
Silly people not just doing what an unelected mob decide should be done on an uneducated whim!
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 22, 2024 12:44 PM)
I'm pretty sure that's exactly how the victors feel Warren
Now, who do you think would win between a Just Stop Oil person defacing Stonehenge with orange paint and a hillbilly hick with an AR-15 and Jesus as his lord*?
*Feel free to swap out Jesus for any Abrahamic religious figure.
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WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(June 22, 2024 06:18 PM)
But what if the hillbilly hick just happens to be atheist?
Yeah, I know it's a stretch but to answer this I need to know if that is possible to look at it from all angels.
We also need to know if he is banging his sister, his aunt, cousin or perhaps even his very own mother.
And if he had been drinking Bud or moonshine that day.
All these little things add up somehow.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 22, 2024 06:25 PM)
The atheists are the worst because they have no reason to live or die
Hillbilly hick is more than happy to prove them wrong and let them spend eternity in hell for their hubris
As for who is he banging or drinking or not drinking - depends on what books they subscribe to but there's certainly similarities across them all
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WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(June 19, 2024 03:55 PM)
People are frustrated and running out of patience at the way Mother Earth is being treated like an open sewer.
I understand why they are angry and cannot blame them for feeling that way.
I also understand what you mean and while this could make others, such as yourself, angry at them instead of their cause.
The corporations responsible for killing the earth won't all of a sudden stop and change their ways.
They are going to carry on because they care more about money than anything else.
Maybe, and this is a long shot, just maybe it could get the attention of the legislators to enact legislation or laws to effect the corporations to change their ways to reverse their earth killing ways and means.
It could also wake us the F up and get us to change our ways since we have the power to make our own personal choices which have an impact.
Switch to an EA.
If not then stop driving so much and find other ways to get around such as public transport or a bicycle.
Switch to a mostly or total plant based diet.
Reduce and reuse.
Etc etc.
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Lilith — 1 year ago(June 19, 2024 05:29 PM)
There are plenty of individuals who accept that the planet is being destroyed, but absolutely no amount of sitting in the middle of roads and stopping traffic while cars burst exhaust into the atmosphere for hours and hours on end, is going to get them over to your side. No amount of gluing themselves to pavement is going to get anyone over to their side. No amount of defacing private property, artwork, pieces of history, etc., are going to make a single bit of difference. No individual doing everything you stated above is going to make a dent.
Corporations are responsible for the majority of what's being pumped out, not individual people. These SJO twats are targeting the wrong people; people who cannot make a change or a difference in the situation.
It's absolutely silly to think that people becoming vegetarians will change anything. Cows have been farting for all of existence. Telling someone to take public transport or…a bicycle (?) …. really? You've never been to states like Texas, NV or been to any rural communities, have you? We have no public transportation where I live and supermarkets are many miles away, as are gas stations, hospitals, (you want someone to ride their bike to the hospital to have their baby?), work offices, banks, etc. That's impractical and downright silly. It's illogical and cannot be sustained. We don't even have buses or trains anywhere near where I live, for example. I'm out in the boonies. Expecting us to bike somewhere or walk is just absurd. People live on farms, people commute an hour to work just to get to the nearest city. People come in all different ages, sizes and health conditions and there's no way everyone can bike or walk to find a bus or train. You're not thinking this through. We don't even have a single charging station in my state for EVs (which is another unworkable idea that hasn't been thought out: power grids go down all the time, especially with severe weather, so that will leave millions without any transportation whatsoever, for extended periods of time). No one's remembering power grids overload. We don't have the infrastructure to support this.
If these silly SJO people really wanted to bring people over to their side and educate others, they would not piss them off and turn them off from their cause. There was a time I'd have listened, but now, watching their antics, I just want to drag them by their hair off the streets and return the favour.
It's really nice to be all idealistic and all that, but that's a utopia that will never manifest. It's pipe dreaming. Above all, it's impossible. Plus, as I keep saying, even if 50% of the individuals reached did something, it wouldn't matter. It can only change when corporations change, and they need incentive to do so, not threats. No one responds to threats. How about we redirect all the money that's causing us to go trillions of dollars into debt and divert it away from foreign wars and take the earmarked funds to pay for infrastructure, and not pay for illegal migrants to invade our country. Combine those things, (and those are just a few), stop student loan forgiveness (another thing that the people who want it don't understand what it really means),…
There are too many screwed up things happening. I support in ways I can such as beach cleanups of plastics, but when we stop things like controlled burns, places like CA end up with wildfires out of control. Again…too many factors, and orange paint and tomato soup is not going to solve anything.
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WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(June 19, 2024 07:48 PM)
Looks like I touched a nerve.
That is quite the defensive rant for, "Fuck our earth and leave me alone so I can do my part to keep on killing our mother."
absolutely no amount of sitting in the middle of roads and stopping traffic while cars burst exhaust into the atmosphere for hours and hours on end, is going to get them over to your side. No amount of gluing themselves to pavement is going to get anyone over to their side. No amount of defacing private property, artwork, pieces of history, etc., are going to make a single bit of difference. No individual doing everything you stated above is going to make a dent.
I dunno about that.
I think you are going off on a hunch or feelings instead of any kind of survey or statistic.
There may be no way to tell for sure how many are angry at their actions vs how many become aware and concerned enough to want or even start to make changes.
I think the main goal is bringing awareness to a serious issue and it works!
I would not have known about this if I had not seen this posted here.
Sometimes one is filled with passion to do radical, drastic things and they gotta do it even if it makes others uncomfortable to face the music.
Corporations are responsible for the majority of what's being pumped out, not individual people.
This is true but we can make decisions, even small ones that can have an impact.
Such as our buying choices.
Or taking your own cloth bags to the stores and not just for groceries.
It really is in our hands.
I have pretty much made every day Earth Day with the choices and changes I made to my lifestyle.
If I can do this anybody can.
It's absolutely silly to think that people becoming vegetarians will change anything. Cows have been farting for all of existence.
It is not silly when it is factual.
A UN study shows that Animal based Agriculture is the number one cause of global warming.
It is not just the methane gas in the manure and "cow farts" that are doing it.
It has to do with all of the fossil fuel that gets burned in producing the feed (Tractors in the fields, airplanes that drop their deadly poison for crop dusting.) and the transport of the billions of animals to be slaughtered then their carcass remains sent to processing and the markets.
We also have more cows and livestock than ever before so of course that methane gas they produce will increase.
These are facts.
Look them up if you don't believe me.
So our eating choices do have an impact on the environment and making the right choice to a plant based diet will help.
Telling someone to take public transport or…a bicycle (?) …. really?
In the urban areas, yes.
I live in a bicycle friendly large town with bike lanes and paths and trails that lead out of it to other communities.
I have taken eco trips with my bike and trailer to camp with them.
Now how can anyone object to suggest that there be more bike riding, using EAs and public transport?
Yes, there are rural areas where that may not be so possible now but why not share in the vision for it to happen in those places?
Or folks could at least set up some kind of car pooling system.
How about we redirect all the money that's causing us to go trillions of dollars into debt and divert it away from foreign wars and take the earmarked funds to pay for infrastructure, and not pay for illegal migrants to invade our country. Combine those things, (and those are just a few), stop student loan forgiveness (another thing that the people who want it don't understand what it really means),…
OK I agree with this.
So how do we get this to happen?
You gotta organize and start lobbying for this, write to the lawmakers, prob. go to the Capitol and have meetings with lawmakers or their aides, etc etc.
Have you taken any steps at all towards that vision?
In the meantime we go back to what I suggested and do those anyway.
We all gotta pick our battles and concerns but what I'm suggesting are things that can be started now by individuals and can have an impact.
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Lilith — 1 year ago(June 19, 2024 08:07 PM)
Of course you touched a nerve. Those JSO idiots are causing more damage and harming far more than they are helping.
Plenty of people, including myself, already recycle, bring our own bags to the market, blah blah blah.
You're missing the point: Have you ever been to Texas or Nevada? No one can ride their bicycle there and get to the supermarket or work, lol You really need to be practical and your idealism is illogical. I appreciate your utopian wishes, but you're going to be very unhappy because this will never be achieved.
The reality is that individuals hold little to no power in making the changes that will provide the most impact. We need changes on a corporate level if you want to see any level of change that will be measurable.
We all have the right to peaceful protest. Kidnapping people, holding people hostage, stopping traffic while forcing them to sit still and idle pumping exhaust into the atmosphere is your idea of a solution? You need to do your homework.
People are bitching about all of this consumerism while wearing products made from petroleum and using products made from child labour and think they're making a difference.
The best we can do is change our own behaviours without trying to ram your ideologues down everyone else's throat, which is what JSO does, which is why they will fail. This is not how you win people over to your side. This is how you get your teeth knocked out.
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WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(June 22, 2024 03:04 AM)
Those JSO idiots are causing more damage and harming far more than they are helping.
Not in comparison to the irreversible destruction the corporations are doing along with our daily choices that invite more harm to the Earth.
I may not be perfect but I do my daily part to reduce my carbon footprint.
The reality is that individuals hold little to no power in making the changes that will provide the most impact. We need changes on a corporate level if you want to see any level of change that will be measurable.
Yes and no.
We are a species of mass consumerism who buy what we are told to buy from the ****ing commercials which brainwash the braindead and those ads are put out from the big corporations because ppl are too stupid and keep buying those products.
If more said, "no" to them as I have mostly done, then they would not be producing so much.
When a boycott is called I am already ahead of them by not buying that product.
We all have the right to peaceful protest. Kidnapping people, holding people hostage, stopping traffic while forcing them to sit still and idle pumping exhaust into the atmosphere is your idea of a solution? You need to do your homework.
The best we can do is change our own behaviours without trying to ram your ideologues down everyone else's throat, which is what JSO does, which is why they will fail. This is not how you win people over to your side. This is how you get your teeth knocked out.
I am one of the few on here that has actually walked the walk and talked the talk from taking part in so many marches, protests and other actions to try and make some kind of a difference in the causes I get behind which is prob. why I support these protesters and understand what their motivations based on frustrations.
Sometimes one has to stop being polite and has to do whatever it takes to bring the awareness they want.
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
I have never vandalized or stopped traffic.
I would rather not get arrested but I can't say I wouldn't do those things for something I was passionate about and wanted to bring awareness to it.
I shall look into and see if there is an "Activist calendar," in my area and take part in any actions that interest me.
While it is interesting sitting here having a civil debate it will not do anything.
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