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    cryptoflovecraft — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 08:28 PM)

    Interesting article. People here are getting down on Fugazi for not driving but it's not that odd in big cities with good public transportation systems. Why own a car if you don't need one? Seems pointless.
    A growing number of Americans are driving less and getting rid of their cars.
    The trend is gaining traction in middle-aged adults, to the point where fewer of them are even bothering to get or renew their driver's licenses, but it's been prominent among younger adults — millennials — for years now.
    "Honestly, at this point, it just doesn't really seem worth it," says 25-year-old Peter Rebecca, who doesn't own a car or have a driver's license. "I mean, I live in Chicago, there's really good access to, you know, public transits for pretty cheap."
    The student at Harold Washington College downtown lives just a couple of blocks from a rail stop on the Northwest side. In the warmer months, Rebecca says, he uses a bike.
    "I've got a bunch of grocery stores in walking distance, and even then I can use the bus if I have to get further," he says.
    Rebecca is hardly alone, especially among young adults in urban areas.
    "Over the past several decades, particularly for the youngest age groups, there's been a pretty large decrease in the number of people who have been getting driver's licenses," says Brandon Schoettle, a researcher at the University of Michigan.
    He led a new study published by University of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute that studied the proportion of people with driver's licenses over the years.
    According to the study, only 69 percent of 19-year-olds have a driver's license in 2014, compared with almost 90 percent in 1983. The percentage of 20-somethings with driver's licenses has also fallen by 13 percent over the past three decades, and fewer Americans in their 30s and 40s now have driver's licenses.
    https://www.npr.org/2016/02/11/466178523/like-millennials-more-older-americans-steering-away-from-driving

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      Vlad. — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 08:35 PM)

      Live in a city? That makes sense.
      Anywhere else? Nah man.
      Stop.

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        138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:36 PM)

        I live in a college town in the downtown area. Hungry can confirm lol. I walk to the library sometimes. If I ever needed to, I could walk to Albertson's and other essential places. It's a 40 min walk/10 min bike ride, but **** that lol. Not that I mind the walking, but you have to go through a questionable part of town.
        We have a bus route too, but there's no need for it. We have people who drive.
        I basically know how to drive and have TIP card I can use if I'm with a licensed driver, which I have, but there is some legal stuff we're figuring out with the family we don't talk to anymore since we all technically inherited the vehicle, and to get insurance… it's a lot to explain.
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          /.​ — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:40 PM)

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            /.​ — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:40 PM)

            Omg imagine being in ur late 30s and having to have a licensed driver with you to get behind the wheel ☠️
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              138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:03 PM)

              I don't give a ****. Never been one to care about keeping up with the status quo. I'm a loner, Dottie, a rebel.
              Also, again, cars are evil. Carpooling is less evil. We need to make publicn transit more of a thing, and there are people smarter than I am who have realistic proposals, hut they likely won't be implemented because of the longtime tradition of automobile lobbyists. They ****ed us last century in the US.
              I'm glad I'm in a town that's walkable, at least in the area of it I'm in. A lot of old towns are like that now it's exurban hell.
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                /.​ — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:50 PM)

                Have your sister sign it over the the mexican. Problem solved! Judge Judy would scold you two ****ing losers who make up all kinds of excuses about not having insurance, getting it out of impound, who really has the title to the vehicle etc, etc.
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                  138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:04 PM)

                  My sister has a lawyer. I don't know the details, but I would thibk the lawyer wpuld have suggested that if it was viable.
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                    /.​ — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:28 PM)

                    Cuz young people are pussies now and driving probably makes them nervous and anxious lol
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                      138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:37 PM)

                      They're also likely more environmentally conscious. Cars are evil.
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                        /.​ — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:42 PM)

                        That's only something people who are too mentally incapacitated to drive or can't afford a car say.
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                          138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:09 PM)

                          Nah, even if that wasn't the case ,,i still wouldn't be friving, but cars are still evil.
                          Facts:
                          Car lobbyists are responsible for making us car reliabt and making cities car reliant.
                          Cars are worse for the environment.car poolong helps reduce our carbon footprint.
                          Don't take my word for it. Look yo the facts.
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                            Uncreative — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 09:49 PM)

                            It's not that hard to get electric ones now. Obviously they're not perfect but their lifetime carbon is something like 75% less.

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                              138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:07 PM)

                              Electric cars still contribute to the problem. We need to lean into public transit. I don't see much hope but maybe wothbthe internet, people will see how awesome it is in the rest of the world.
                              Either way, this idea that me bot having a car is a bad thing is ****in retarded. Very boome attitude.
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                                Uncreative — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:31 PM)

                                Until that becomes a viable option cars are the tool we're stuck with. I take the train if I'm going downtown because parking is both expensive and a pain in the ass and because I have a free transit pass through work but that's really the only time it's viable.

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                                  138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:34 PM)

                                  Yes, and it's better to carpool than for me to have another car on the road.
                                  Even when we have multiple drivers among us, we try to consolidate as comfortablly as we can.
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                                    Uncreative — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:37 PM)

                                    That's fine if you're all going to the same place but being driven to the grocery store isn't really the same as carpooling.

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                                      138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:42 PM)

                                      Whatever you wanna call it, sharing a vehicle when me and the bro in law both need to get our groceries is better than both of us driving individual cars.
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                                        Uncreative — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:46 PM)

                                        Ideally a housewife runs errands like that for the family by themselves during the day while the other partner is at work.

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                                          138 — 2 years ago(January 13, 2024 10:59 PM)

                                          I do, alongside my future bro in law. He does his stuff at a lot if the same places. He's gotta go to these places anyway, and I live in town, so it's not outbl of the way.
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