UAPs
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Fun Guy From Yuggoth — 2 years ago(August 03, 2023 12:18 PM)
Yes, some of the aliens were offended by exclusion since their method of propulsion technically wouldn't be considered flight, and thus they had to space-fold their way to a safe space on Neptune to recover from the anxiety and PTSD they suffered from being mislabeled.
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Grammar Nazi — 2 years ago(August 04, 2023 07:27 AM)
Unidentified
Anomalous* Phenomena*
is the modern day term used by the US military and intelligence agencies
What does UAP stand for?
UAP stands for "unidentified anomalous phenomena," a catch-all term to describe objects detected in the air, sea and space that defy easy explanation.
The acronym stood for "unidentified aerial phenomena" until December 2022, when the Pentagon updated its terminology to encompass "submerged and trans-medium objects," as one official put it at the time. NASA and other agencies soon followed suit.
What are UAPs?
By definition, unidentified anomalous phenomena are just that — unidentified. But generally the term refers to objects spotted by pilots or detected by sensors that cannot be immediately explained.
Hundreds of military and commercial pilots have reported UAP encounters. The Pentagon has released several videos in recent years showing some of the objects. Many end up having innocent explanations —they turn out to be weather balloons, drones or small aircraft— while others remain shrouded in mystery.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-are-uaps-unexplained-aerial-phenomenon-ufos-new-name/ -
MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(August 03, 2023 12:28 PM)
They "exist" only the in the sense that people see things that they can't identify or explain. That does not qualify as evidence of extraterrestrial craft. The chance that these are spaceships from other civilizations is next to absolute zero.
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MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(August 04, 2023 10:07 AM)
Newsworthy, barely.
A threat of any kind to anything or anyone, utter nonsense with no basis in any reality.
People have been seeing UFO's for hundreds of years and literally nothing ever comes of it–except some people are very good at exploiting the phenomenon for attention and grift. The UFO enthusiast community is littered with con-men. Things are no different today. -
MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(August 05, 2023 11:02 AM)
Anyone making such a ridiculous claim is talking out of their ass for attention. These idiots don't even know what they were seeing and have no evidence-based means of evaluating threats or capabilities.
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MagneticMonopole — 2 years ago(August 05, 2023 12:46 PM)
You make a good point there, but given what was reported, it is far more likely that what they are seeing is just a strange aeriel phenomenon we haven't explained yet rather than any kind of technology–I mean, right now we literally do not have a full understanding of what causes lightning.
I've been following the UFO phenomenon for decades and the evidence is inconsistent with the notion that these are vehicles directed by any kind of intelligent agent.
One of the most commonly reported behaviors, going back hundreds of years, is witnesses to report lights or shapes that float to the ground in a swaying motion similar to that of a gently falling leaf, before they rise again and repeat the behavior. Or the things just alternate between dancing around and hovering.
No one is going to bother building advanced technology vehicles just to do something so completely pointless. -
Vlad. — 2 years ago(August 05, 2023 02:23 PM)
I like your thoughts. It seems rather ludicrous these things can travel light years but crash on earth?! Lol what? Makes no sense and I believe the counterpoint is crashes are a matter of course with any flight related endeavor. But still seeens unlikely
What bothers me a lot is, from what I heard, Grusch himself hasn’t seen any of this. He’s going off what others told him and I think he claims to be privy to certain tangential details corroborating those second hand accounts. I found Grusch to be the least convincing of the three.
Commander Frevor, though, claims to have seen them. I found his presentation to be serious, severe, and believable. The third guy, Graves, a pilot, I believe also said he encountered these crafts.
I think what maybe happening is these guys grew up believing in aliens, became pilots or intel officers as adults, saw stuff they cannot explain and the mind filled in the blanks: aliens.
Another possibility is social engineering. “Non human biologics” is not the same as aliens; you have non human biologics in your car right now in the form of bacteria. Perhaps these guys are trying to present this such that it implies aliens exist but without actually saying it, so as to collect media attention. This could benefit them if they’re concerned about Congress blowing off their case, as they’ve made it a matter of social discourse among the electorate.
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/. — 2 years ago(August 09, 2023 07:40 AM)
Good post. I don't really like this Grusch guy because of the three he's the one making the really bold claims, which require some very compelling evidence for me to get on board with, but the nature of the claims makes them unfalsifiable. He can't be asked to produce anything because he hasn't said he's seen any of it firsthand. So if we're awarding him brownie points simply because he went before congress and that's supposed to mean he'd be crazy to lie, realize they can't exactly demand he bring forward an alien carcass "or else." He can say whatever he wants with impunity just about.
I haven't heard much from the actual hearing but followed the Fravor and Graves stories from before this blew up, and unless they've changed their tune, they've never actually pushed that what they saw were aliens, only that the craft seemed to be capable of incredible maneuvers that defied anything else they've witnessed. People keep mistakenly referring to all three as "whistleblowers," but that's only Grusch. The other two are just ex-military dudes with stories they can't explain.
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Ricky the head alien — 2 years ago(August 10, 2023 07:07 AM)
followed the Fravor and Graves stories from before this blew up, and unless they've changed their tune, they've never actually pushed that what they saw were aliens, only that the craft seemed to be capable of incredible maneuvers that defied anything else they've witnessed
But think about that for a few seconds.
If they're credible (and I think they are), try to make a list of what other explanations there could be for what they (and their cameras) saw.