we dont have property tax since 20 years or so.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 14, 2022 03:14 AM)
I know you're being sarcastic, but there's some truth to this. However, he does have the capability of opening his eyes. His stance on unchecked, unlimited immigration has done a 180 over the years.
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Corwin — 3 years ago(December 14, 2022 11:52 AM)
Rob is entirely pragmatic and clear-eyed when it comes to his politics, which is why I appreciate what he says. It also helps that we seemingly share most political views!
Most of us in other Western countries call it universal healthcare, because that's what it is: it's not free, you do pay for it through taxes, but it covers everyone.
It needs big improvements, doesn't work perfectly, is inefficient at times, but normally and generally it's better than the alternative. How do I know? Lots of family and friends who have been exposed to the US alternative, working and living there. Plus your healthcare per person in the US is astronomically expensive with poor outcomes compared to other OECD (Western) countries.
If you are happy with it, from a personal experience or perhaps more importantly to you from a philosophical approach, great. I wouldn't want it, myself.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 14, 2022 12:22 PM)
Rob is entirely pragmatic and clear-eyed when it comes to his politics
Nah, not entirely, mostly maybe, but not entirely.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 01:23 PM)
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The number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States are medical costs.
So? Most times bankruptcy is a strategic move rather than a last resort struggling move. A lot of times bankruptcy is a legal way to beat the system. Your argument doesn't mean anything. It is incredibly easy to get Healthcare in the US, like insanely easy. I worked at a job part time, not even in a union, broke my wrist, went to the ER, a few days later went in and saw one of the top orthopedic surgeons in the nation, when it was all done I was left with zero bills and paid nothing out of pocket. Bernie is lying to you fools because he knows you're simply that, fools.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 02:27 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
So? Most times bankruptcy is a strategic move rather than a last resort struggling move. A lot of times bankruptcy is a legal way to beat the system. Your argument doesn't mean anything. It is incredibly easy to get Healthcare in the US, like insanely easy. I worked at a job part time, not even in a union, broke my wrist, went to the ER, a few days later went in and saw one of the top orthopedic surgeons in the nation, when it was all done I was left with zero bills and paid nothing out of pocket. Bernie is lying to you fools because he knows you're simply that, fools.
And, all of ^this aside, while it may be the #1 reason people file bankruptcy, statistically in the US nobody files bankruptcy, it's statistically nonexistent. Like way less than 1% of adults.
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/. — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 02:43 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
So? Most times bankruptcy is a strategic move rather than a last resort struggling move. A lot of times bankruptcy is a legal way to beat the system. Your argument doesn't mean anything. It is incredibly easy to get Healthcare in the US, like insanely easy. I worked at a job part time, not even in a union, broke my wrist, went to the ER, a few days later went in and saw one of the top orthopedic surgeons in the nation, when it was all done I was left with zero bills and paid nothing out of pocket. Bernie is lying to you fools because he knows you're simply that, fools.
Holy ****, you're insane. Millions of Americans can't afford health care in this country.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 02:51 PM)
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Holy shit, you're insane. Millions of Americans can't afford health care in this country.
Yeah, Bernie's lying to you. But I like how your "bankruptcy" argument fell flat so you resorted to flailing.
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/. — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:15 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
Yeah, Bernie's lying to you. But I like how your "bankruptcy" argument fell flat so you resorted to flailing.
You really should do some research so you stop making a fool out of yourself.
https://legaljobs.io/blog/bankruptcy-statistics/
More than 40% of US survey respondents are currently in debt due to medical bills.- At least 24% of survey respondents in the US are currently facing medical bankruptcy.
Medical bankruptcy, a way to solve the financial issue of not being able to repay your medical bills, is an American reality. A survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) found that 41% of American adults currently have some sort of debt from an unpaid medical or dental bill. - Almost 30% of Black households have some sort of medical debt.
A report by the National Consumer Law Center has found that 27.9% of Black families have some sort of medical or dental debt. In comparison, among white families, only 17.2% have debt due to health care costs.
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- At least 24% of survey respondents in the US are currently facing medical bankruptcy.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:24 PM)
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You really should do some research so you stop making a fool out of yourself.
https://legaljobs.io/blog/bankruptcy-statistics/
More than 40% of US survey respondents are currently in debt due to medical bills.- At least 24% of survey respondents in the US are currently facing medical bankruptcy.
Medical bankruptcy, a way to solve the financial issue of not being able to repay your medical bills, is an American reality. A survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) found that 41% of American adults currently have some sort of debt from an unpaid medical or dental bill. - Almost 30% of Black households have some sort of medical debt.
A report by the National Consumer Law Center has found that 27.9% of Black families have some sort of medical or dental debt. In comparison, among white families, only 17.2% have debt due to health care costs.
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Lol, did you even try to comprehend what you sent?
First you tried bankruptcy and that didn't work, now you threw out a random survey showing 24% of people are in some sort of medical debt. I had a $50 medical bill years ago that I never knew about and it got thrown to collections. $50. That's it. That qualifies as "some sort of medical debt." I'm sorry, but the Bernie Sanders fear mongering healthcare crisis in the US is simply that, fear mongering. It's once again a grift for voted.
Lol, keep going, what else you got?
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot
- At least 24% of survey respondents in the US are currently facing medical bankruptcy.
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/. — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:32 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
Lol, did you even try to comprehend what you sent?
First you tried bankruptcy and that didn't work, now you threw out a random survey showing 24% of people are in some sort of medical debt. I had a $50 medical bill years ago that I never knew about and it got thrown to collections. $50. That's it. That qualifies as "some sort of medical debt." I'm sorry, but the Bernie Sanders fear mongering healthcare crisis in the US is simply that, fear mongering. It's once again a grift for voted.
Lol, keep going, what else you got?
Apparently you're the one that can't read. Look at it again. 41% of Americans have medical debt, not 24%. The 24%, or 1/4th of Americans, are the people that can't pay off their medical debts. They face medical bankruptcy. Your whole argument that no Americans have trouble paying their medical bills has been debunked. You lose.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:36 PM)
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Apparently you're the one that can't read. Look at it again. 41% of Americans have medical debt, not 24%. The 24%, or 1/4th of Americans, are the people that can't pay off their medical debts. They face medical bankruptcy. Your whole argument that no Americans have trouble paying their medical bills has been debunked. You lose.
You're right, I conflated the two numbers. Again, "some sort of medical debt" is extremely vague and means nothing. Also, bankruptcy means nothing, people can say they face bankruptcy or whatever, fact is the % of Americans who file bankruptcy every year is pretty much nonexistent, not to mention a lot of times it's more of a strategy than a sign of struggling.
Seems like your random survey wasn't so random at all, and was manipulated to push a false narrative. It's not 24% of Americans, it's 24% surveyed, and out of them we're just supposed to take their word for it. You are certainly someone who has no problem lying to push a narrative, just like all leftists, how much faith do we have in the person conducting the survey and the people responding? Sir, you're dumb if you keep letting Bernie Sanders terrify you.
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/. — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:44 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
You're right, I conflated the two numbers. Again, "some sort of medical debt" is extremely vague and means nothing. Also, bankruptcy means nothing, people can say they face bankruptcy or whatever, fact is the % of Americans who file bankruptcy every year is pretty much nonexistent, not to mention a lot of times it's more of a strategy than a sign of struggling.
Seems like your random survey wasn't so random at all, and was manipulated to push a false narrative. It's not 24% of Americans, it's 24% surveyed, and out of them we're just supposed to take their word for it. You are certainly someone who has no problem lying to push a narrative, just like all leftists, how much faith do we have in the person conducting the survey and the people responding? Sir, you're dumb if you keep letting Bernie Sanders terrify you.
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It's shocking how little facts you have as a basis for your opinions.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 03:52 PM)
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It's shocking how little facts you have as a basis for your opinions.
Lol! Your first argument was "Ermahgerd, muh bankruptcy!" Which sounded nice in your head, but you didn't bother to look at it at all, because statically bankruptcies in general are near non-existent in the US, and are also often used as a financial strategy. So you shifted to an extremely vague poll as some sort of evidence, which then got picked apart because it didn't provide anything of value or detail, so then you once again went back to "Ermahgerd, muh bankruptcy!"
Lol, you're doin' great.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
/. — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 04:05 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
Lol! Your first argument was "Ermahgerd, muh bankruptcy!" Which sounded nice in your head, but you didn't bother to look at it at all, because statically bankruptcies in general are near non-existent in the US, and are also often used as a financial strategy. So you shifted to an extremely vague poll as some sort of evidence, which then got picked apart because it didn't provide anything of value or detail, so then you once again went back to "Ermahgerd, muh bankruptcy!"
Lol, you're doin' great.
You implied that no Americans have trouble paying medical bills, which not even the dumbest of conservatives believe, yet somehow you do, I proved you wrong, and now you're flailing and saying that surveys don't count because they don't survey every American. So now you're arguing against math. If you want lose even more than you already have then just keep on doing what you're doing.
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Yermom_Is_God — 3 years ago(December 15, 2022 04:13 PM)
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You implied that no Americans have trouble paying medical bills, which not even the dumbest of conservatives believe, yet somehow you do, I proved you wrong, and now you're flailing and saying that surveys don't count because they don't survey every American. So now you're arguing against math. If you want lose even more than you already have then just keep on doing what you're doing.
You implied that no Americans have trouble paying medical bills
No I didn't, that's how you chose to take it, which was intentional because that was the only way you could try and argue against my point, to alter it mentally. That's your problem.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot