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    /.​ — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:53 AM)

    "States rights" in general are just stupid.
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      kuatorises — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 04:29 PM)

      You posted that you wanted to kidnap the little girl from The Black Phone, no wonder you're not a fan of the death penalty.

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        TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 06:27 PM)

        by Jobu November 09, 2022 09:02 PM
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        First, it violates a defendant's due process. The Constitution guarantees every person has the right to a fair trial on the federal level. A convicted murderer is not getting the same fair trial in Mississippi as he would in New York.
        Defendant's may plead guilty to avoid the death penalty.
        A defendant's defence may argue for life in prison without parole, to avoid the death penalty.
        This shows legal capital punishment has a domino effect that affects the defence's argument, the defendant's plea, the jury's verdict, and the sentencing.
        State's rights/laws should never have any influence over the plea, verdict, and sentencing in a criminal trial.
        The Buffalo shooter can also plead guilty; meanwhile, he doesn't have to hire any legal team or have a defence of any kind, and by default, without a defence, the State gives life in prison without parole.
        Meanwhile, the Florida shooter Nicolas Cruz's defence is forced to only argue for life in prison without parole. There is no room for error. If they fight for lighter sentencing than life in prison without parole, and lose, he is sentenced to death.
        Meanwhile, the Buffalo shooter's defence is free to take risks in a sentencing trial, and perhaps fight for parole, or reduced prison time. With Cruz's team, there is no room for error; they're forced to fight for avoiding the death penalty.
        Thus, Defendants in a murder trial where death penalty is legal should be allowed to appeal their case and be tried again in a new trial where death penalty is already off the table.
        Criminal trials involving murder are too serious that they surpass any one state's laws regarding sentencing and punishment; therefore, I believe defendant should be able to pick by which state's laws they want the trial to operate.
        If you murder in Florida and you murder in New York, the criminals should be getting the exact same trial standard. That's not the case right now (literally, case, haha). Obviously the the direction in which the trial goes is being influenced by the state which is a Constitutional violation to due process.
        Also, the fact that the government can legally lynch a person is ****ing nuts. This is not a thing that should be happening in 2022.
        Interesting, never watched it under the aspect of unequal trials.
        But true, if States apply different rules it certainly leads to different trials and different defence strategies.
        Apart of that:
        Death Penalty violates Human Rights !
        And human rights are valid across the world, even if some countries ignore them.
        Killing and torturing are crimes…with or without Amendments.
        The
        hang 'em and flog 'em brigade
        may argue some have forfeited their humanity through their evil deeds.
        Similarly, the Nazis justified the Holocaust: Jews weren't humans.

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          Cheeky — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 06:44 PM)

          People (if you can call them that, they're monsters, actually) who would torture a child to death, a child who depends on them and who cannot defend themself, deserves no consideration
          Are you familiar with
          The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez
          ? Or what happened to Adrian Jones? Gabriel's mother is miserable in prison… I guess she thought she could torture Gabriel indefinitely since she was able to get away with it for several months while the people being paid to protect him looked the other way
          Life was good for all the degenerates when they were torturing children… such a pity that they've lost their freedom and that some kind of justice was served for the suffering they inflicted
          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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            TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 06:51 PM)

            by Cheeky November 10, 2022 07:44 PM
            Member since November 16, 2019
            People (if you can call them that, they're monsters, actually) who would torture a child to death, a child who depends on them and who cannot defend themself, deserves no consideration
            Are you familiar with The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez? Or what happened to Adrian Jones? Gabriel's mother is miserable in prison… I guess she thought she could torture Gabriel indefinitely since she was able to get away with it for several months while the people being paid to protect him looked the other way
            Life was good for all the degenerates when they were torturing children… such a pity that they've lost their freedom and that some kind of justice was served for the suffering they inflicted
            Go back to your Texas-thread and celebrate the next death sentence.
            Your reasoning reminds to Roland Freisler. ☻

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              Cheeky — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 06:55 PM)

              Roland Schmoland, I care for victims, not evil criminals
              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:00 PM)

                by Cheeky November 10, 2022 07:55 PM
                Member since November 16, 2019
                Roland Schmoland, I care for victims, not evil criminals
                Yah, you're such a good person.
                If you don't just electrocute someone.

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                  Cheeky — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:05 PM)

                  If you're interested, I will keep you in mind and we can both celebrate when it happens
                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                    TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:10 PM)

                    by Cheeky November 10, 2022 08:05 PM
                    Member since November 16, 2019
                    If you're interested, I will keep you in mind and we can both celebrate when it happens
                    Not interested.
                    Now go back to your Texas-thread, you self-righteous
                    being
                    .
                    Enjoy the view and satisfaction what runs down your belly when someone dies.

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                      Cheeky — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:15 PM)

                      aww, Tara tastes the salty tears when heartless criminals get their comeuppance
                      I will light a candle for you, delicate Tara
                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                        TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:18 PM)

                        by Cheeky (November 10, 2022 08:15 PM)
                        Member since November 16, 2019
                        aww, Tara tastes the salty tears when heartless criminals get their comeuppance
                        I will light a candle for you, delicate Tara
                        Are you suffering from an ADHD-attack also?
                        Don't burn your fingers.

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                          Cheeky — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:29 PM)

                          I am! Have pity on my soul
                          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                            TaraDeS — 3 years ago(November 10, 2022 07:34 PM)

                            by Cheeky November 10, 2022 08:29 PM
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                            I am! Have pity on my soul
                            BlaBla

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