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    tj23 — 21 years ago(July 19, 2004 01:43 AM)

    In this week's Entertainment Weekly Damon is quote as saying, "There was a $50 million movie that everyone involved in wanted to be 3 hours and 12 minutes long." Financers of the movie pressured Thorton to cut it under 2 hours. Damon says, "You can't cut 35 percent out of a movie and have it be the movie you intended." He didn't seem happy about this and says Billy Bob "got screwed." He didn't seem happy with Harvey Weinstein as well. Apparently Weinstein is working with Columbia to release the DVD at its original length.

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      billybrown41 — 21 years ago(January 07, 2005 08:57 AM)

      I followed the movie all through production and was more than a little upset about what eventually happened to it. I recently read an interview with Billy Bob and from what he said, the original cut is almost a different experience altogether. He had originally gotten Daniel Lanois to do the soundtrack, but it ended up being Marty Stuart. He still didn't know if the original cut would ever be released but it would be interesting to finally see it as it was intended to be seen.even if it is four years after it hit theaters.

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        errantnight — 21 years ago(March 17, 2005 01:21 PM)

        I know this is almost a year later, and I've heard nothing since
        but as one of my favorite books this chopped up adaptation for the screen was disappointing in its mediocrity
        I really hope the director's cut one day sees the light of day because you can sense a better picture hiding beneath and beyond the one that was released

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          christopherfolan — 20 years ago(June 15, 2005 09:58 PM)

          I remember seeing this in theatres and liking it very much. But I've never got the DVD, I've always been waiting and hoping for the longer version. The film as it is just feels like it was gutted.

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            jhvogelsang — 20 years ago(June 17, 2005 05:11 PM)

            I couldn't agree more. At 3 hours 15 minutes 'Schindler's list' and 2 hour and 50 minute 'Saving Private Ryan' would have been entirely different movies if edited down like this one.
            Who knows why people like Harvey Weinstein make these decisions that affect the outcome of their investments or why 2 hours is THE sacred hollywood studio limit - it sure didn't harm either of the aforementioned films did it?

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              anne1991 — 20 years ago(July 12, 2005 04:26 PM)

              2 hours is a good approximate limit on the length of a movie because the longer a movie is, the fewer times it can be shown in a day, thus reducing its revenue potential. If a story truly needs 4 hours to be properly told, then it should be a miniseries, not a theatrically released movie.

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                wparrill — 20 years ago(July 20, 2005 08:15 PM)

                Here is a list of some of the greatest movies ever made, and their approximate running times:
                The Seven Samurai (205 minutes)
                Nashville (160)
                The Wild Bunch (160)
                Children of Paradise (C. 180)
                Andrei Rublev (205)
                Gone with the Wind (210)
                Birth of a Nation (180)
                Greed (Butchered beyond recognition)
                Wages of Fear (150)
                Metropolis (originally c. 180)
                Dr. Mabuse (two parts of about 150 each)
                Nibelungen (Ditto)
                1900 (240)
                Das Boot (best version, c. 180)
                Fanny and Alexander (180)
                The Human Condition (3 films of 3 hours each)
                Napoleon (Abel Gance, restored to over 5 hours, only available version is 235).
                Titanic runs about 197 minutes.

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                  Jamesdean3510234 — 20 years ago(September 23, 2005 08:00 PM)

                  i think if you really wanna see a movie, the running time won't piss your pants for you
                  i'm all for the "original and as intended by the director" version
                  not the "hollywood-slashed-down-to-weinstein's-waist-size" cut

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                    mallen28 — 20 years ago(October 08, 2005 04:33 PM)

                    i saw this move at a test screening here in austin at its original 4 hour length. it was an amazingly complete movie and one of the best "true westerns" ive ever seen. i told everyone i knew to see this movie when it arived in the theatre and because of the cutting of almost HALF of the original i came out looking like a dumbass, i can only hope they let mr. thornton release his version in the future.

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                      Borred101 — 20 years ago(February 08, 2006 01:48 AM)

                      Does anyone have an update on this? I'd really like to hear if a director's cut dvd is in the works.

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                        claire_rohan — 20 years ago(February 19, 2006 06:44 AM)

                        yeah me too!

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                          rrogers-9 — 20 years ago(February 24, 2006 04:15 PM)

                          Yeah, can't we go all Freaks and Geeks and get a petition started or launch a site to raise some publicity. I'm dying to see the true cut.

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                            tony-563 — 20 years ago(March 11, 2006 11:18 PM)

                            I'm in, if there's a petition to be signed.

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                                headhoncho — 19 years ago(April 30, 2006 09:21 AM)

                                Birth of a Nation may be the first full length feature film, but it isn't very good at all. It presents some of the worst prejudice I've ever seen, and glamourizes the KKK. The story is all over the place, and is very shoddily designed.
                                Yes, it was a great achievement in Cinema and bravo to D.W. Griffith for pulling off the huge battle scenes and just managing to actually go through with his plans on making this 180 minute epic. But if we're talking about the effect running time has on story, I think we should only be mentioning movies that actually do have a very good story.
                                And I'm not just some silent film hater. Metropolis and Battleship Potemkin are up there as two of my favorite films. Fritz Lang is my all time favorite director.

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                                  mojojojoap — 19 years ago(May 03, 2006 02:31 PM)

                                  Definitely. I've been wanting to see this version for a long time.

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                                    darkbhudda — 19 years ago(April 05, 2007 08:47 PM)

                                    Ignore this guy. Birth of a Nation is a good film. Yes it has prejudice, but there's far worse in modern films. The story is not "all over the place", but deals primarily with two families, so cuts between them. Just like they do today, but unlike today it doesn't insult the audience by putting text on the screen pointing out the exact date, time and location.

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                                      fleebix — 19 years ago(May 20, 2006 05:38 PM)

                                      I heard that original 12 commandments by DeMille was around 24 hours.
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                                        fleebix — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 08:11 AM)

                                        Yeah DeMille put some extra 2 in there sorry
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                                          fleebix — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 08:13 AM)

                                          Yeah DeMille put some extra 2 in there sorry
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