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    samwise_fan1965 — 14 years ago(June 11, 2011 11:52 AM)

    Can someone tell me what exactly Books tells the young girl on the trolley? It's when he refers to the weather and uses the line Bond says earlier about it being a false or fall spring?
    I have tried for years to hear exactly what he said and as usual the caption setting on the tv comes up with something totally different.
    Many thanks.

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      BKinzeys — 14 years ago(June 13, 2011 06:55 PM)

      He says: "It's what we call a false spring" the exact same line told to him by Bond during their last conversation.
      I've always thought it was meant to join the characters of JB and Bond together. As he rides the trolley to what he thinks is almost certain death he is thinking of her.

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        samwise_fan1965 — 14 years ago(June 16, 2011 03:46 AM)

        Thank you for the info. I never could tell which way the line went when either Books or Bond said it.

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          Grendel1950 — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 07:54 AM)

          It could also be a reference to spring being a time of renewal and new life. A "false spring" could be unfulfilled hope; it would be appropriate for Books, who knows he could have just arranged his own death.

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            crestviewfarms — 13 years ago(September 18, 2012 01:33 PM)

            I believe "False Spring" is specific to an unusually nice winter day (remember the dates are mentioned - early January as I recall).
            This term might be a kissing-cousin to "Indian Summer", but I am only guessing.
            "False Spring", from a weather standpoint, is a symbol for a dying man who summons his last energies to be vibrant.
            That is who I view it..

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              turi43 — 13 years ago(December 13, 2012 01:30 PM)

              I believe what John Wayne and Mrs. Gillum said was that the day seemed " like a Fall Spring ". In other words it felt like a combination of a Fall (Autumn) and a Spring day.

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                verbrands — 13 years ago(January 20, 2013 09:06 PM)

                No, it was false spring.

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                  movies789 — 12 years ago(January 25, 2014 10:58 AM)

                  There are innumerable references to "false spring" throughout Wikipedia and Google, but none to "fall spring".

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                    mdudnikov — 12 years ago(January 29, 2014 06:27 PM)

                    Yes the term is a False Spring, meaning some unseasonably warm weather in winter that might seem like spring had come very early. However it is only a temporary respite before the cold winter weather returns.
                    Also as he exits the trolley, Books says something to the girl like, I hope the right young man will come along for you.

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                      emjee-1 — 9 years ago(August 20, 2016 01:52 AM)

                      I have watched this film a half a dozen times and always assumed it was "False spring". But I just now listened to it paying full atention after reading this thread, and Bond definitely says "FALL Spring" So does J.B. when talking to the girl in the trolley.

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                        gorgsharpy — 3 months ago(December 12, 2025 04:01 AM)

                        It was Bond’s declaration of love to Books. There they were in love and he would die. By saying it to the girl on the it’s sort of ambiguous. But she will tell about it and eventually Bond will hear and she will know the love was mutusl. Unless he was in for Lolitas …

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