how I really feel!
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david_r_fry — 16 years ago(February 13, 2010 11:05 AM)
What exactly do you think in my post is incorrect? Most I know for certain is correct. This movie is absurdly inaccurate. If you point something out in my post as as being inaccurate give me a reference for your information or I'm going to assume you're just being ignorant.
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david_r_fry — 16 years ago(February 19, 2010 12:01 PM)
You should read the posts you're commenting on a little more closely before you create your own post. I didn't say I didn't know much about the cowboys and the old west, I just said I wasn't an expert on the subject. I didn't say most of the cowboys were Mexican/Indian or African American I said nearly 50% were, particularly those in the south west(west texas, new mexico, and arizona). Most of my Mother's family were from S.W. Missouri and had originally settled there in the late 1830s and 1840s in and around Springfield and north to Kansas City. Early on they started running log drives down the Arkansas and Red Rivers to New Oreans because of the large amounts of good lumber created when they cleared their land. It's there that they learned about the lucrative cattle drive business, which at that time was mainly to New Orleans. Many of the next generation moved to central Texas and were among the earliest organizers of the cattle drives. Almost every branch of my ancestry on my mothers side had at least one member move to Texas. These families included the Wilsons, Weirs, Scroggs, Morrills, McCoys, Mitchells, Hoods, and Houstons(differant branch). All these families were involved in one aspect or other of the cattle business, including organizing cattle drives. Those families all considered themselves Southerners, fought in the Civil War for the South and had slaves. They used their slaves to drive their cattle to N.O. then connected backup up with relatives in S.W. Missouri just before the Civil War and drove their cattle there. Then after the Civil War they continued to use mainly freed slaves to do the day-to-day dirty work for another generation. So basically you don't know what your talking about. I think your relatives are the revisionists.
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phillipsdan83 — 6 months ago(October 01, 2025 04:04 AM)
The Gary Grimes character just simply isn't cut out to be a gunfighter. He flunks the basic manhood test for the 19th Century by leaving Culpepper's cattle drive in the first place…you finished what you started. And he'd already seen and participated in enough violence to realize he had no taste for it, so he should have realized that there was nothing HE could do to help the squatters. The other four trailhands were professional gunfighters who'd been made to swallow their pride by the rancher, so they may or may not have come to their aid even without the boy. The Grimes character only truly grows up when the squatters decide to move on without burying the dead first.