Racist movie?
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psyclone72 — 12 years ago(September 12, 2013 06:26 PM)
Congratulations on posting in a thread after reading its title, but next time you should give a try to actually reading the content, which will involve your brain as well as simply your eyeballs. This will give you things like "insight", "perspective" and "context".
I can try to boil it down for you. I get called a "racist" for pressing the play button on a DVD player and saying "I remember this film being pretty good", when actually it's people who are quick to sling the 'R' word around that are typically the ones who have something to hide, history to be ashamed of and are overcompensating for it, and this overcompensation is actually a form of racism in itself. How do you find yourself fitting into this category now?
I know, it's not that simple, is it. Give it a little more than 30 seconds to let it sink in -
TonyC4444 — 12 years ago(September 13, 2013 09:37 PM)
I thought it was stereotyped on purpose. It took a white couple and made them inbred racist money grubbing people, and then of course your friends are right about black people being sterotyped as poor and breaking into places. This movie likes to pit one extreme against another in MANY fashions. This being one.
Other examples are
rich (landlords, nice house, lots of property, ripping off poor people) vs poor (ghetto, pure motives, salt of the earth).
Pure Evil (mom, dad, pay particular attention to their clothing) vs Pure Good (Alice, fool, in particular Alice's appearance).
There's even an extreme between human being and sub humans pitting just about everyone at one point or another against the people under the stairs who were subhuman.
It's just a movie of extremes. Tell your friends that the white guy died first in this movie, maybe that will calm them down lol. -
mickeyesbbeck — 12 years ago(September 23, 2013 09:40 AM)
I'm white and live around white rich people. Hate it. Also a black racist horror is Candyman. Marks can love it all they want, but it was bad. The second was the best. Exploring his past and the family he gave birth to. All of it makes me sick. Why not have a horror where you have Latin, White, Black, Euro, Asian, and so on together. And make it with good actors and an original not a remake. Is that to much to ask?
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psyclone72 — 10 years ago(June 23, 2015 08:25 PM)
Hi Leanne, thanks for bumping my thread!
The "N word", as you call it, is not racist itself, it has everything to do with context. Anyone can say it, so long as they understand all of the implications of it. I say this word very often when I refer to (am paraphrasing) how white people perceive black people. There is no other option in such cases. Plenty of racism in 2015 to go around, unfortunately. It's not going away anytime soon. I've said it to the face of several "people of African decent" and they have understood perfectly what I mean and have respected me for it. I would even say it now because I hate to say this "the N word", it's really pathetic, but I think the IMDB goblins would not allow it, no matter the context. That's the only reason I wouldn't type it here. I have a more cautious attitude typing it into some internet forum than I would saying it in the outskirts of Washington DC or Atlanta, because I understand fully it's about context. It's about "white guilt", when we as honkies say "the N word" it's as if saying "I want to say nr, but I'm scared you'll bash my head in" - this is "white guilt", and it's really stupid and it's very condescending and patronising to "people of African decent" = black people. See, we are even scared to say "black people", we always get dizzy with this "African-American" PC-talk. I always feel annoyed when I hear these CNN-honkies saying "African-American, African-American", it sounds so unnatural and awkward. Just go ahead and say "black", it's one syllable, it's easy to say, just go ahead and say it. Just be careful how you say it, that's all, check your trembles. Again, it's all about context. Say "black", go for it, but just make sure your context is in order. Black is beautiful, it's true, and I'm not just saying that out of "white guilt", I fully feel that way so I have absolutely no tremble in my voice or insecurity about saying "black" or even "the N word", because I'm not about to condescend or patronise my fellow human being, no matter who or what they are. With my trembles in check, I find I rarely get myself into trouble.
This is turning into a rant, sorry, I just have such a mood right now. Just be thankful, for everything we've had as a "race", us honkies, accept there's no such thing as "reverse racism", that in itself is a really backward mentality. Just be cool and relax and put a smile on your face, push your personal troubles aside and try to think more "universally", and you'll find other people will respect you more for it. Somehow mystically. We've had it good, to say the least. To say "we've had it good" is a brutal understatement, so as a white person we should step back, have a good look at our lives and ancestry and say "you know what, I've had it so beep good, more than anyone else on this planet", be cool, relax, and then very comfortably say "I'm white, you're black, let's stick to one syllable and make it easy on ourselves". When I say "black", put me under the microscope and see if you can detect any resentment or superiority there. I challenge you.
We should not condescend and patronise other human beings to think that a mere word can get us into trouble and cause offense, we should be aware that EVERYONE understands context, background, paraphrasing and attitude. Words don't matter, words mean nothing, context means EVERYTHING. I would say, in many cases, saying "African-American" when you mean to say "black", or saying "the N word" (literally saying that) is more offensive that just outright saying nr, if that's what you really mean. Don't get caught up shuffling and juggling words because nobody is stupid enough that they won't see through it. Just say what you mean, how you mean it, and people will understand your "context". Really. Just say it, if that's what you really mean, and let fate be the judge of your outcome.
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kuatorises — 3 years ago(September 29, 2022 11:33 AM)
Mommy & Daddy were racists (amongst other things). It doesn't mean "the movie" is racist. They're villains, they're supposed to be terrible people. Wes Craven wasn't a racist because his villains are. That's how a child thinks.
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soad-94948 — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 08:02 PM)
I feel like saying this here because it needs to be said and because I find it annoying and it has nothing to do with me. Here we go. NOT EVERY PERSON WHO IS BLACK IS OF AFRICAN DECENT. Some are from countries from central and South America as well as other countries I probably don't know about. I don't know why all black people are always considered as African they most definitely are not all descended from there.
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Woodyanders — 6 months ago(September 10, 2025 12:26 AM)
Definitely not a racist film at all. The protagonist Fool is most definitely one of the bravest and most selfless black heroes to ever be featured in a mainstream horror film by a noted and respected master of the genre.
You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything.
