Can we finally get a remake that actually follows the graphic novel?
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RoyWilliamsbeatsCoachK — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 03:29 PM)
The graphic novel was incredible, especially the final act. This movie was an abortion that completely changed it for the worse. Please give us a real movie that follows the real story!
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(May 18, 2025 06:24 AM)
This movie is the biggest pile of stupidest **** imaginable
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preachcaleb — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 03:33 PM)
Absolutely. It's not about the violence, but about how violence can affect and shape us. And in this movie's case, it's how it shapes us into people we may not like to be.
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 03:53 PM)
It was okay as a comedy, but the whole thing was too ridiculous to take seriously at all. For me, good performances and direction cannot compensate for a silly script.
A history of being overrated.
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preachcaleb — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 07:59 PM)
Gotta disagree with that as well. There were some good moments of levity, to be sure, but the tone was firmly a psychological thriller. A very effective one at that.
Those performances delivered on a great script. The way it starts off with the red herring of the two killers at the beginning before going into a fairly good mystery as to Tom's true past before hitting audiences with that gut punch/mood whiplash when we learn Tom's true nature and right up to that somber ending was fantastic storytelling.
This was a great beginning to Viggo and Cronenberg's working relationship. It's perfectly rated as is.
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 09:48 PM)
It was not effective at all. There was little to no psychological thriller elements in this, it was just a dumb action movie.
The mystery of who tom was became irrelevant at the halfway mark. After that it stopped being interesting and just became a standard revenge movie involving the mafia. It was equivalent to a Steven seagal flick. The whole climax in the mansion is like a comedy, hard to take seriously, with Tom having the most ridiculous plot armour. Then it just ends without tying up any of the loose threads.
Definitely one of cronenberg’s weakest efforts,
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AnthonySocksss — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 10:10 PM)
It’s neither ambiguous nor a real ending, the movie just randomly decided to stop without any sense of closure, open ended or not. Like the writer turned in a half-finished script and the producer said YEA LET’S ROLL WITH IT. Ultimately it’s a long winded shaggy dog story. The final scene is more like “wait that’s it? Who cares” lol
You only get the privilege of using the “ambiguous ending” if you actually have a real story to tell to begin with. This was not it, and undeserving of any such praise. There was nothing to think about other than how dumb the last part was. It’s like a joke with no punchline.
Waste of 2 hours
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preachcaleb — 10 months ago(May 19, 2025 10:20 PM)
Gotta disagree there as well. It was extremely effective. The camera shots and cinematography perfectly capture the look of a thriller. Peter Suschitzky has an impressive list of thrillers he's worked on, and it shows in this film as well.
That's mid-story plot twist. Tom really was the horrible human being he was being accused of. It's fantastic the way it's framed, and Tom's coldness when he admits to who he was leaves no room for doubt. Audiences have to re-evaluate everything they thought they knew about Tom and where the story was headed. Excellently staged and executed.
I can't quite see it as a Seagal flick, but it definitely leans much more into action towards the end. Nothing wrong with that. Tom's plot armor is no worse than any other main character in most movies we follow.
As for the ending, it's great. It's not meant to tie up loose threads because life doesn't always tie up loose threads. The ending is a somber, sobering look at how someone's past can impact their present, no matter how much they've tried to outrun it. We are left to wonder what will become of this family now that all the skeletons are out of the closet. Heck, that's as far away from some Seagal flick as anything else.
Easily one of Cronenberg's finest, and it led to bit of a resurgence for him and a move away from the body horror he'd been doing for several decades at that point. That trilogy of movies with him and Viggo (A History of Violence, Easter Promises, and A Dangerous Method) is a great streak.
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