"Spielen wir Liebe" is not kiddie porn, nor illegal except in germany. "
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jbaker1-2 — 12 months ago(April 04, 2025 12:27 AM)
Does your mother know she raised an idiot? Does she even admit she's your mother?
There are 8.2 billion people in the world. 8.19 billion of them have never heard of and don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Get over it. -
Eliakim48 — 18 years ago(May 16, 2007 09:02 AM)
Oh, one more thing, as a follow-up to my last post. The thing about the depiction of the sex scenes in Maladolescenza as compared to what is happening today is much more of a contrast than one might perceive at first glance.
At least, when one saw Maladolescenza, while one understood that this was indeed the kind of thing that did happen and was shown here, it was also understood and known that it was a "depiction" and a drama which was acted out for the audience. That was well-understood.
But, today, the video cams are not producing "re-enactments" but are the real-thing. What people are getting now is the "raw footage" and you can be sure that you're not getting acting but you're getting the actual acts themselves. It's just totally whacko, actually, to think about it.
We have a group of films banned for the depiction of these sex scenes with these very young people (12-18 years old, in the movie), while we have today real sex scenes being actually done in real-time, real-life, and filmed in raw-footage, and dispersed all over the Internet for anyone to pick up (and cell phone cameras have gone a long ways towards popularizing that one).
You begin to understand what a momentous "sea change" has happened with video, in real-life things, when you see people in what is seemingly thought of in backward places (like Mosul, Iraq) filming, on their video phones, the killing and stoning of a very young girl (in her teens) for "dishonoring" her family by not coming back home one night. She's shown in gory detail, stoned to death, head smashed by concrete blocks, blood pouring out of her head on the ground, in real-life and real-time while others are hollering about the "depiction" of the scenes in Maladolescenza all the while thinking that the actual doing of these things by 12-years olds today is perfectly fine (as long as we don't "depict" it).
Ummm, someone has got things on completely backwards, I would say
And by the way, those scenes of the very young teen girl with her head smashed open, blood pouring out on the ground, and done in real-life, in real-time, is not banned by the way.
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Dismenot — 18 years ago(May 17, 2007 11:40 AM)
"And by the way, those scenes of the very young teen girl with her head smashed open, blood pouring out on the ground, and done in real-life, in real-time, is not banned by the way.
Yep, some people sure have a screwed-up sense of priorities in this life "
Very silly point to defend this movie on.
May as well say, "Well, it's OK to kill in self defense, so it should be OK to kill all the time."
Or the reverse, "Murder and assult are against the law, so you have no right to defend yourself.".
Just because one miscarriage of justice exists, does not make the others OK, or any better or worse.
Nor does it necessarily have to have the same moral implications.
Your 'point' is much like the pedophiles that scream, "Hey! the gays get to be gay and that's different and sexual, so my sick kiddy porn thing that is different and sexual is OK too!".
Apples and oranges.
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jbaker1-2 — 12 months ago(April 04, 2025 12:33 AM)
Let me guess. You voted for Trump, didn't you?
There's a George Carlin routine that features the line "Think how stupid the average person is, then realize half of them are stupider than that!" He was talking about you, wasn't he?
There are 8.2 billion people in the world. 8.19 billion of them have never heard of and don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Get over it. -
Jeorj Euler — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 12:40 PM)
Why is it anymore difficult than a traffic violation to state "This movie is NOT legal to own in the USA" or a "Stop sign" demands you to stop or you break the law?
That's like comparing apples and, well, strawberries. For the traffic analogy to apply, it would be a situation in which drivers and pedestrians aren't sure that a given sign is in fact a stop sign. It might be circular not octagonal but still bearing the word "STOP", or it might be octagonal but bearing the word "CAUTION". But of course, in that case, the sign itself is illegal, and government gets in trouble with government. -
SnoopyDogDog — 20 years ago(December 30, 2005 07:36 PM)
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If that's true, then how come the movie KIDS by Larry Clark is available on DVD in practically every video store in the US? There's nothing "worse" or more explicit in MALADOLESCENZA than in KIDS.
hmmm, you must own the cut version then, or, I have never seen the uncut KIDS. Because in
Mala there's T and C visible of real 12-11 year old girls. And I don't think that it's like
that in Kids, in which in the beginning of the movie, there's a lot of suggestion but the girl
who DOES look like she's 10 years old, you have to admit, NEVER has any T, C or A visible.
Her hair is nicely glued over her T's
If there's more nudity in KIDS, please let me know. -
Poukram — 20 years ago(September 06, 2005 05:49 AM)
It is quite amusing for a non-american to read about your "moral"! What is your problem with nudity or naked children? See, in Europe, we have no problem with nudity at all. And to see a nude body is fully natural. And nobody is pedophile when looking at a nude child. I am going on holidays to Montalivet/France, one of the biggest nudist-camps in Europe for the last 30 years (first with my parents, now alone or with my own family and/or friends). And there are nudes of all ages and sizes. And there is no problem to be nude, there are no "perverts" or something like that. Nudity is natural!
And by the way: Eva was and is still a beauty. I have all the pictures here mother took from here, when she was between 11 and 16 years old. She was lovely!
And if someone is going to answer me, please let me know: nudity is not good, but giving weapons to children is OK? Violence is better than being nude?
Thx a million!
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junk-mail-4 — 20 years ago(October 14, 2005 06:57 PM)
Simple question in return; if your daughter was in a nudist camp, with 999 "normal" naturalists and 1 stated sex offender, would you knowingly leave her there unclothed for his entertainment? Think hard before you answer.
And "if someone is going to answer me, please let me know: nudity is not good, but giving weapons to children is OK? Violence is better than being nude?"; that's just pure sophism masquerading as a coherant answer. -
Poukram — 20 years ago(October 18, 2005 02:06 AM)
One question back to you, junk-mail-4: you let your children go out on the street even knowing, that there could be a guy who wants to rape your child? Even knowing, that 1 from a 100 could kill your child?
But to your question: from your answer I can see, that you never ever have been in a nudist camp in your whole live. You even don't know, that children are never alone, they are all the time together with their parents, familiy or direct peer-group (if you know, what it means). Alone-standing (does this word exists in english?) people are not allowed in the most nudist-camps. The majority is married and have a family. You are answering (or questioning) like someone, who says "NUDITY = SEX = RAPE = BAD". THATs what I see in America for along time now, you cannot devide between nudity and sexuality (no wonder, that most of the american teenager are the prudest in the whole world).
So, if you have never been in a camp like that, don't bother me by asking questions from the yellow press.
And you didn't answer my question: is violence better? Didn't you learn from Columbine?
AND BY THE WAY: IT IS CALLED
NATURIST
AND NOT
NATURALIST
!
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andrpas — 20 years ago(December 11, 2005 01:34 AM)
I may seem to be impolite, but here is what I think:
What I respect most of all are two things:- truth (it does not matter if it is spelled out or not, as it is always there).
- logical thinking, based NOT on some cliche(s) or stereotype(s), not even on emotions regardless of their origin (even if these emotions stem from a culture or religion).
But this might be a little bit too "general" personal statement.
I'll try to be more specific here.
What I see and hear everywhere around me quite often is just a little bit too much "WHAT IF". Especially after 9/11.
"What if there will be a terrorist hiding nuclear bomb in the minivan and driving it to our ("proper") town?"
WOWWW!
This is right!
Let's invade another weaker country and kill tens of thousands to feel a little bit more comfortable JUST ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR "What if", etc.
I won't continue with more silly examples of "reasonings" which start with "What if".
Any one of us can think of and come up with hundreds of them.
"Dutschke" gave you a very good one, out of (probably) 1000 others possible.
And all of them would be as good as the one given.
At this point, and frankly, I would call 99% of statements starting
with "what if" as at least five cents demagogy.
Not even as good as cheap NLP manipulation techniques or exercises from popular brochures on "the art of a dispute".
But then, depending on the subject and emotions involved, it could be
(and unfortunately it is true for many situations in everyday's life here, in the US) as bad as "brainwashing" for certain purposes on one side, and signs of a possible emotional or even mere psychiatrical problem(s) on the other side in certain cases
Please, do not think I am calling you "crazy"!
I am not a US-born, so if I would try to insult you, I would say it explicitly.
(BTW, according to what you write, I think that you are quite far from being "crazy", otherwise I would not write this post or any other comment at all).
I am just trying to inspire your thinking about some concepts (!!!) in a given modern culture. And about a concept of "nudity" in particular.
As far as our personality is concerned, it does not really matter what I/we/you say in public about whatever.
But it does matter if you can realize (just for yourself) at least the following:
to what extent your PERSONAL opinion (even if it is just a "feeling", not a solid opinion) on any particular concept or event is formed by a "culture" around you, and to what extent it is formed by your own cold reasoning based on YOUR cold logic with the help of facts/statistics and, perhaps,
your OWN (!!!) experience?
Speaking about "nudity of minors" concept applied to the US culture and its stereotypes, I can easily ask you a few simple yet logical questions which might completely knock you down. These questions would not be rude or insulting to anyone.
Not at all!
They just might be from the area you may prefer not to think about at all due to a possible "cultural" influence, etc.
I will not ask you to answer those questions to me or to anyone else in person or over the Internet, if you decide so.
They will be just for you, so you could ask them yourself.
Yet, I am not sure
Let me know.
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theholographic — 19 years ago(January 20, 2007 12:38 PM)
My instant reaction to your question was, of course, "No way!". But then I got thinking. There are killers out there, but I would still send my kids out into the streets. So I don't know. I'd want to protect them, but not be overly-protective.
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przgzr — 17 years ago(December 10, 2008 04:26 PM)
First paragraph: yes, I am a nudist and I took my family to naturist beaches, and if there was a sex offender among us enjoying what he could have see, there have been 999 "normal" naturists (not naturalists but it's just a matter of education to know who were or are naturalists) to help my daughter if he tried to do anything, what is much safer then being fully dressed alone with a sex offender.
As for second paragraph, " that's just pure sophism masquerading as a coherant answer " that was just a pure avoiding to write any answer. -
harryposter — 20 years ago(January 06, 2006 07:44 AM)
Not sure of USA, but DVD is available with canadian net store.
Ask guys from http://rarefilmfinder.com. They know where to find those movies like Maladolescenza. -
flipendo666 — 20 years ago(January 24, 2006 01:53 PM)
You must be kidding!
5-40 years for what? for watching a movie, where people under 18 acting nude? watch out for watching the news, there mite be a chance u see a beach footage where a youngster running on the beach with out clothes. Sigh. Plz dont use this movie as a bat in a discussion about child porn. Its a movie. It contains underage actors, and yes, they appear nude. But to compare that to childporn is just ignorant.
my 2 cents
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