Which Death is Better? Uncut or Censored?
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super-staff — 11 years ago(August 29, 2014 07:41 PM)
I thought about that a while back, but I think what I prefer about the editted version was that despite all of the torture and horror that the Joker subjected Tim to, he still had the will to toss the gun away and managed to cling to some semblance of himself. He was indirectly responsible for the Joker's death still, but he showed some great strength in that scene. It just seemed like a nice touch to me.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I think the electrocution is more gruesome than just being shot. -
preachcaleb — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 05:53 AM)
I do find the censored version more gruesome than the uncensored one. Joker's scream is chilling.
But I find Tim's actions in the uncensored version more satisfying for the story. He directly murders the Joker. Something Batman never did. It gives Tim's story a stronger sense of tragedy than the Joker stumbling in some water.
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super-staff — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 05:01 PM)
That's an interesting take.
It's cool because both versions are quite different, but they each have some intriguing implications in how the events affect Tim and his overall arc in the film.
I also love how even the editted version is incredibly dark and morbid in its own way as well, Dini and Timm did a great job there. It reminds me of some of the other stuff they 'censored' in BTAS like Batgirl falling off the building in "Over the Edge". -
preachcaleb — 11 years ago(September 02, 2014 05:45 AM)
Absolutely. I love how they're able to make the censored versions as, if not more, horrific than the uncensored versions. Another is the death of Robin's parents.
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ultimatenexus — 11 years ago(August 06, 2014 04:07 PM)
I preferred the uncut version's death scene. His death was a lot more comical and darkly humorous, which suited Joker more than just slipping in some water and clumsily pulling on a lever.
I liked his sendoff in the uncut version much better. "That's not funny." LOL.
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CovertThunder — 9 years ago(April 14, 2016 10:25 PM)
I agree, I like both.
Having Tim Drake pull the trigger and intentionally kill the Joker is really powerful and adds a whole other level to the Joker's deed. The Joker's whole career is based on making Batman kill him (which Batman will never do), so for Tim Drake to get broken by the Joker in this way while Drake's still a child is some heavy psychological sh!t.
However, the censored version is still fine with me. That way, no matter what the Joker did to Drake and the hell he put Drake through, he still couldn't break the kid. Then Drake tries to save Batman instead of the other way around, and the Joker accidentally ends up killing himself.
I'm just glad that having either ending doesn't really change the movie or the characters in any way.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 02:51 PM)
I'm just glad that having either ending doesn't really change the movie or the characters in any way.
Well, sure they do. As you pointed out. In the uncensored death, Tim was broken. He became a murderer as a child. That is very heavy and does change the character a lot.
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Jetfire1959 — 9 years ago(April 23, 2016 12:18 AM)
I like both versions. My mood decides on which one I re-watch from time to time. The raw brutality of the shooting is very effective as are Mark Hamill's incredibly squirm-inducing screams during the electrocution. Both of Bonk's deaths are cool in their own ways too. Hmmm. I'm going to have to go watch both of them now.
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