Get The Director's Cut. It truly is awesome!
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ComicNerd — 12 years ago(January 24, 2014 05:41 PM)
The director's cut is better then the theatrical cut. That being said, the DC does nothing to improve the poor production values, poorly staged and shot action and over the top acting by Colin Farrell. The movie looks like it was shot on the Universal Backlot set, at times you almost expect the backlot tour to come by.
The story is ok, I sort of like the Coolio subplot, but I hate how simplistic the Kingpin story plays out. I also think adding Elektra into the mix took away for concentrating on Daredevil himself. -
MaximusGrandimus — 12 years ago(January 24, 2014 08:12 PM)
"The director's cut is better then the theatrical cut. That being said, the DC does nothing to improve the poor production values, poorly staged and shot action and over the top acting by Colin Farrell. The movie looks like it was shot on the Universal Backlot set, at times you almost expect the backlot tour to come by."
I don't understand statements like this. Yes, a film like Plan 9 from Outer Space has obviously bad production values. But this film I felt was very well designed and shot. I just don't see what you see when it comes to saying, "it looks like it was filmed on the studio backlot." HOW, exactly? I mean, okay, the over-the-top Farrell - if you didn't like it, you didn't like it. I appreciated his take on the character, but this is a matter of taste/point of view I suppose.
But the action sequences were superb to me. The roof-top battles felt like they were hundreds of feet off the ground. The scene where Bullseye attacks the Nachios entourage is extremely well-crafted. There were a few times (such as when Matt is floundering his way to the church) when backgrounds seem noticeably painted in, but I took that as an homage to the Frank Miller and Kevin Smith stories from which much of the material is derived. And the fight in the church was a visual treat, especially when Bullseye starts to use the pieces of organ pipes to affect Matt and we get these great flashes of his blinded radar-sense.
In fact, the radar sense is one of the best-realized digital effects in superhero movies in the last few years. And the Director's Cut version where Matt teaches himself to run across the rooftops and fight is a soaring ode to the comic books upon which the film is based.
I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
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ComicNerd — 12 years ago(January 24, 2014 09:42 PM)
For a Marvel feature it looks like a TV show. For the Backlot comments, let me use the scene where Foggy and Matt go to Coolio's house in the DC, there are hardly any extras around, there is no outside life in many of the scenes. Especially the fight between Bullseye and Daredevil in the street, there is no one around, it looks like it was shot on an empty street set somewhere. I will give you that the rader sense was excellent, however the Church scene is marred by really poor fight choreography and very obvious CGI doubles. The poor effects there had nothing to do with being an homage, and more to do with the studio increasing the budget after the movie had started filming ,because of the success of Spiderman. They threw in extra CGI scenes but were poorly done.
I was willing to give the director Mark Steven Johnson the benefit of the doubt on this one, being his first big feature until Ghost Rider came around, and that was complete crap.
The flashbacks with Matt and his father are very well done and I wish the rest of the movie lived up to that. -
TheAdvocator — 11 years ago(June 15, 2014 08:18 PM)
Actually the director's cut adds a lot to the action in the way it is edited. Take the final fight between Matt and the Kingpin for example. The punches hit harder and there are less jumps. Like when Kingpin threw Daredevil against the window, in the theatrical it's a quick cut from clear across the room. The director's cut shows Matt being pulled in, punched a lot and then thrown into the window.
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VirtualMark — 11 years ago(July 11, 2014 10:37 AM)
. Heart rate is a major basis for contemporary lie detector tests, as when a person is telling a lie - generally - their heart rate and pulse will spike, along with certain other physiological signs.
Yes, along with certain other signs. Pulse rate alone doesn't mean a thing.
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MaximusGrandimus — 11 years ago(July 11, 2014 10:59 AM)
Once again, though I point out: This has been a conceit central to the character throughout the comic book mythology. In fact, just about every superhero with "super-hearing" - Superman, Wolverine, etc. - have been known to be human lie detectors in the comics by listening to the liars' heartbeats.
If we're going to accept that a person doused with chemicals has been granted extraordinary powers, can we also agree to accept other conceits that carry over from the comic book, such as the human lie detector aspect?
I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
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VirtualMark — 11 years ago(July 11, 2014 02:03 PM)
Oh sure, I can accept it and suspend my disbelief. As you say, there are a lot of powers granted in the superhero genre!
It makes me wonder what on Earth was in those chemicals? And why hasn't anybody else noticed that they grant you superpowers? It's the same in a lot of comic book stories though, like in Spider-Man, hasn't anybody else been bitten by that spider?
Still, I love the genre.
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MikePaul854 — 12 years ago(January 01, 2014 02:47 PM)
I agree. The Director's Cut should've been the one released as the theatrical. Had the studio done that, I doubt we'd be calling it a disaster like we do and Daredevil would be up there with the greats like The Dark Knight and Spider-Man.
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Jimbo_BSD — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 06:08 PM)
Today I finally watched the directors cut after hearing for years it was a much better version. The thing is, it doesn't clear up any of the problems. Daredevil still kills a guy for raping a woman, is willing to kill Bullseye but holds back on the worst criminal of all for some reason. The threeway fight between DD, Elektra and Bullseye still pops up out of nowhere. The Foggy and Matt relationship is still forced. The dialogue problems are still there.
It just adds a subplot and creates a more consistent dark tone. But that's about it. It's still not a good film. 5/10 -
Link6321 — 12 years ago(February 12, 2014 11:56 PM)
by jimbo_rd (Sat Feb 8 2014 18:08:20)
is willing to kill Bullseye but holds back on the worst criminal of all for some reason.
It's been a while since I last watched the movie, but it always looked to me like he was
only
"willing" to kill Bullseye because he was a nuisance that kept getting up. Like, if Daredevil just gave him up to the authorities without disabling him, he'd just slip right out because of what he (Bullseye) was willing to do to ANYONE. I mean, really, Bullseye had no reputation to protectin contrast to the Kingpin. Besides, when Daredevil threw him out that window, it didn't seem like he "wanted to kill" Bullseye; it just seemed like he got fed up of the guy taking up the time he could've spent defeating the Kingpin, so he decides to just toss him out the window.
As for Kingpin; didn't Daredevil break his both his knees? By that point, the Kingpin had essentially become a cripple. There was no more point in going through with killing him, if that was even part of his plan at all, because the dude's crippled. Daredevil wanted "justice to be served," so he left him there for the authorities to find. It's not like he was going to go anywhere.
The Foggy and Matt relationship is still forced.
No, the Elektra-McCabe relationship in "Elektra" was forced. The Matt-Foggy relationship in "Daredevil" felt quite natural, especially considering we actually
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 11 years ago(February 24, 2015 08:55 AM)
It's been a while since I last watched the movie, but it always looked to me like he was only "willing" to kill Bullseye because he was a nuisance that kept getting up. Like, if Daredevil just gave him up to the authorities without disabling him, he'd just slip right out because of what he (Bullseye) was willing to do to ANYONE. I mean, really, Bullseye had no reputation to protectin contrast to the Kingpin. Besides, when Daredevil threw him out that window, it didn't seem like he "wanted to kill" Bullseye; it just seemed like he got fed up of the guy taking up the time he could've spent defeating the Kingpin, so he decides to just toss him out the window.
As for Kingpin; didn't Daredevil break his both his knees? By that point, the Kingpin had essentially become a cripple. There was no more point in going through with killing him, if that was even part of his plan at all, because the dude's crippled. Daredevil wanted "justice to be served," so he left him there for the authorities to find. It's not like he was going to go anywhere.
Agreed.
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Herreken — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 11:32 PM)
I saw the theatrical cut a long time ago and I didn't like it. So I thought I'd give the director's cut a shot. It's still not a very good movie. There's a lot of really bad CGI, bad-looking wire-work, cheap-looking city backgrounds, confusing story elements, lame music, and Colin Farrell.
What real evidence was there to connect the King Pin's lackey to the Tazio murder to the point where he'd betray King Pin?
How do Daredevil, Elektra, & Bullseye find each other on the roof tops? Why do the police show up with a SWAT team?
Why does Daredevil have a weapon that can easily reveal his identity?
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mcgill-646-33556 — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 05:04 AM)
I'm in the camp that thought the DC was a major improvement over the theatrical release. I can appreciate the first movie, and also the criticisms that followed. One of the most entertaining extras on the DC disc is watching Avi Arad trying to convince everyone that the DC is just a dalliance and the theatrical release is the 'real deal'. Some just live in denial.
What I'd really like to see is a cut that includes the priest's scenes. I can see why he wasn't supposed to be in the original cut, but I liked his conversations with Matt. And if the DC had finished the initial fight scene between Matt and Elektra the same way as the TR With Matt on the bench and Elektra's boot at his neck telling him her name with that little wink sigh. -
TRinzler — 11 years ago(June 05, 2014 10:41 AM)
The DC is a superior cut and makes for a pretty decent film. The story is more coherent and true to the character (about justice rather than revenge) and the performances are much better - Franklin, Elektra & Urich, in particular, all benefit greatly from their extra scenes. It's a real shame the studio butchered it for the theatrical release.
The CGI is still poor and badly used and there are several cringeworthy scenes (Daredevil twirling his batons before jumping from the roof of his apartment block is truly terribad but the playground and church organ fight scenes are probably the worst culprits). The fight choreography was definitely lacking in places.
I especially liked the shot of the flaming 'DD' reflected in Urich's spectacles or when Daredevil jumps down from the ceiling fan (in the biker bar fight) legs extended ready to kick the two guys beneath him as he lands - those were taken straight out of the pages of the comics! It was coll to see them brought to life on screen
I think if they re-shot the CGI and some of the fights then re-released it, the DC would do still sell pretty well. However, as 10 years have now passed a reboot is now more likely.
If they're sticking with a gritty, down to earth potrayal they should consider a retro storyline (as Xmen - FC did) and set it in the 70s but if they decide to go mystical with him then crossovers with Mephisto, Ghostrider, Dr Strange etc. should aim for a very different look and feel. -
home0006 — 11 years ago(December 15, 2014 02:49 PM)
I wonder if some of the cluttered nature of this film was the feeling they only would get one Daredevil movie so they tried to jam 40 years of Daredevil history into one film. There was enough there with the Kingpin story line that they didn't need to introduce Elektra and deal with the whole bit about Bullseye killing her. There's enough in that story alone that it could have been contained in its own movie. I really liked the Coolio sub plot that got added to the director's cut because it fleshed out the Matt Murdock side of the character better than the original version.
Personally I like the DC and think it is significantly better than the original. In fact it's even one of the better comic book movies that has been made, but I think Daredevil has a lot more potential than what we saw even with the DC and I hope the series can flesh things out better than any movie ever could. -