The Guardian… yay or nay?
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Educator07 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 05:38 AM)
I've felt that the Berlanti shows are about the destination not the journey. Look at all the stuff they cram in the pilot episode. Jame's arc should have been at least 4 episodes. It seems like he became Guardian overnight. I wish he focused on his paying job a little more.
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jimmydeanbakker — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 01:13 PM)
James was like, "Get me a suit! Get me a suit!" Bam! Now he's fighting crime like his last name is Chan. How do you write a story like that with absolutely no freaking backstory? If anything, they could have done a montage of him training from his childhood with different instructors from around the world. What's the backstory on his father? I think his father was actually a secret agent like James Bond or Special Ops. I can't remember, but whatever he was doing, it got him killed. The writers should be using that to develop James' backstory. If the writers they have can't humanize James, then they need to find writers who can.
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Educator07 — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 01:48 PM)
These writers simply aren't that good. I watch because of the characters not the writing. If this show had a decent showrunner, Jame's transformation could have been a yearlong arc. They could have even used Krypton technology. Again, it's all about instant fulfillment with zero build-up.
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Amethyst-El — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 08:25 PM)
Guardian would only work in Arrow! Not on an alien show. Sorry but he can get killed easily and keeping him alive and making him strong is just very silly. And remember if you remove him from the show, nothing will change because he is not a huge or important character. I wouldn't even notice if he wasn't around.
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Educator07 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 10:18 AM)
Everyone on the show can easily be killed. You have Alex and Winn who work at the DEO, a place that houses dangerous aliens. Supergirl was saved last season by firemen or she'd be dead.
None of these characters are important to SG's mythology because she barely has one. That said Jimmy Olsen is known more than Mon-El, Winn, Cat Grant, John, and Alex.
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lamont-hard — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 07:00 PM)
People want back story as if on a series like this they would have the time. James story arc is no different in background than the rest. I can't wait for his featured scenes because though they are short he and Winn are different.
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thesnowleopard — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 11:43 PM)
I don't think he works as a vigilante. Granted, I side-eyed Supergirl's speech about how he couldn't be a hero because he was human (I'd like to see her tell her sister that), but I think he's not really a heroat least not right nowfor other reasons.
As Guardian, he's arrogant and unlikeable. He thinks he's always right and he seems to have this attitude that he is invincible in the suit. Plus, his motivations seem very selfish. He's doing this to "prove" himself and be a BDH, not to help other people, and I think that will come back to bite him.
It just doesn't do very much for his character. I get they're looking for something for him to do, but I don't think this is it.
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barrelofmonkey — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 05:12 PM)
Granted, I side-eyed Supergirl's speech about how he couldn't be a hero because he was human (I'd like to see her tell her sister that)
I think this is a recurring theme in the show. We are used to the TV trope of the hero of the show giving some definitive speech, and basically ascribing that speech to the view of the show as a whole.
But Supergirl often jumps to conclusions, and has those self-righteous speeches, and then is shown to be dead wrong, even in the same episode. I think it's a subversion of the "views of the writers through the mouth of the hero" trope, and it shows that she is idealistic and impulsive, but will (often begrudgingly) accept that her first instinct was wrong when shown the evidence.
The theme is also echoed by Martian Manhunter's views on M'Gann, and Supergirl's on Mon El.
I think the basic message of the show is to be willing to learn and change.
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thesnowleopard — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 07:28 PM)
But Supergirl often jumps to conclusions, and has those self-righteous speeches, and then is shown to be dead wrong, even in the same episode. I think it's a subversion of the "views of the writers through the mouth of the hero" trope, and it shows that she is idealistic and impulsive, but will (often begrudgingly) accept that her first instinct was wrong when shown the evidence.
Yeah. Unfortunately, James is doing a pretty good job of proving her point.
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johntarmstrong-56068 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 05:06 AM)
They should have written in an arc where Winn had been working on the suit as a pet project but it was turned down at the DEO. This would made the suit out to be something a little more special and would help justify some of his ability when wearing it.
Then they should have put in an arc where James starts witnessing scumbags hurting innocent victims while Supergirl is too busy fighting all the alien problems. Then James' ex-girlfriend, Lucy, comes back into town and after he and supergirls falling out, start to rekindle their romance. Then Lucy gets either killed by the street thugs or severely beat down. Then James takes on the mantle of the dark knight..err I mean Guardian. -
daxdsnine — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 11:37 AM)
Nay
There are already Supergirl and the DEO - not to mention the police - to protect National City. Is a vigilante really necessary? I would rather see professionals (Alex & J'onn) assist Supergirl.
His sudden fighting prowess and desire to help as a hero are also unbelievable. Does he REALLY want to help, anyway? Between his job as Catco's CEO (also unbelievable) and his turn as Guardian, he is still finding time to write articles tooting his own horn.
In my opinion, the character unfortunately doesn't serve any purpose on the show, which is on the brink of being overcrowded with wannabe heroes. If he really wants to escape a Super' shadow, he should move to another city where he could be more useful. That would be a good sand-off for the character. -
OliveNymph — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 09:42 PM)
If he was doing it for the reasons he said, because he genuinely wants to help people, then i'd be on board.. This seems more out of self interest to prove himself to people rather than helping others He felt overshadowed by Superman, and Supergirl and sure he cares about people but i call BS on the reason for him doing it.. He talks more about the rush of being out there, and always quick to add his name on the same level of Supergirl as if to reap some of the glory that comes with being a hero.. If he was more humble then yeah, but why the hell should anyone care if he's doing it mostly for his ego..?
He was even willing to put Wynn in danger and btw never showed even a bit of concern when Wynn was attacked.. Again more about him and less about the position he's putting the people who has his back.. Makes me hate his character actually -
vegaoth — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 09:43 PM)
I don't think the Guardian arc works here. I mean, if National City wasn't such a sunny place already being protected by the police, the DEO and Supergirl and instead we had a corrupt and decaying type of city, like Gotham, then I'd see the need for a vigilante. Right now Guardian, who doesn't have the powers of Supergirl, nor the training and means of the DEO (except what Winn munches of them), just looks like a dumbass who wants to feel good about himself. He would be dead by now if Winn hadn't made that suit for him.
I think the show should have made him Kara's photographer partner at CatCo and they should have let their relationship develop naturally (either have them work out or let them take their time to discover they really don't fit together) without making the show about their romance. That was such a clear path for his character. Instead he has been sidelined into a storyline that really does not work at all except to sort of parallel Mon El, that guy who suddendly came to the show and has more screentime and story that James ever had and is now Kara's love interest to boot.