Superman took lives in this movie too!
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thevintagecola — 10 years ago(March 01, 2016 02:13 PM)
It definitely was talked about that Superman inadvertently took the lives of Luthor's henchmen in Returns back in the day as well as his colors being too dark.
Point being, Snyder's Superman gets crap for killing while it never really is talked about how Returns Superman also killed.
It's really the terrible dialogue and story more than anything else that makes people complain about Man of Steel. Superman snapping a neck is just par for the course and are easier shots to take without really getting into why the movie sucked. -
pcull1016 — 10 years ago(April 05, 2016 10:48 AM)
In case you forgot, the thug was about to bash Lois' brains in. At that moment, Jason's adrenaline level spiked, triggering an unexpected burst of strength.
Therefore, Brutus' death was accidental.
By the way, the other members of Lex's posse died because of their own greed. Lex and Kitty got out of the cavern just as the earthquake began, but the crooks stayed behind to grab their loot, and as a result, they got out too late for a monolith to crush them to death.
SMALLVILLE: 218 episodesand SuperBlur? -
Viltrumite — 10 years ago(March 04, 2016 11:18 AM)
Ah, this again. Even if those guys were Superman's best friends, he still should have done exactly what he did. Every moment he wasted would have meant less chance of success and even more death. What are millions (or billions, thanks Lex) of lives next to that of three scumbags who were accessories to that potential loss of life? Anyway, Luthor told them to leave all their crap behind but they didn't listen. If they had, they'd still be alive. When the movie first came out, people were like "Doesn't matter, Superman should have found a way to save them". These people are fools. Superman can't save everyone. What do they want, for him to time travel and avert the whole disaster?
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ManuelManipulation — 9 years ago(April 30, 2016 05:12 AM)
Any deaths, even those of crappy henchmen, are the direct result of Luthor's actions and only he is responsible There are probably people in Metropolis who Superman wasn't able to get to who died as well, all Luthors fault
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(August 08, 2016 02:16 AM)
"First of all, I don't agree with all the backlash that Man of Steel got for killing Zod. That's a different topic however. I rewatched Superman Returns and realized that when Supes lifts the kryptonite/crystal continent from the ocean, three of Luthor's henchmen die as they attempt to escape. He may not have snapped their necks but their deaths are a direct result of Superman's (totally justifiable) actions. Point being, Snyder's Superman gets crap for killing while it never really is talked about how Returns Superman also killed."
He was lifting a continent-sized rock made of kryptonite to SAVE people, risking his own life in the process! Comparing the deaths of three thugs in "Superman Returns" with the mass destruction and deaths of HUNDREDS OF CIVILIANS in "Man of Steel" is NOT comparable - at least with "Returns" Superman actually made an effort to save people and minimize damage. In terms of Zod getting his neck snapped, whatever dramatic impact Snyder was hoping to go for, it was pretty much lost due to the oversaturation of death and destruction presented. -
Wombstar — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 04:41 PM)
Had he not killed Zod in MOS more people would have died.. so the way to save as many people as possible would be to kill the one killing all the people.
And yes he killed Zod in Superman 2, there was no way he could have survived, and yes other civilians we killed during the attacks.
If MOS got one thing right it was the mass destruction and Zod getting his neck snapped by Superman (and act of desperation and anger, so many would have been killed otherwise) But it seems if views hater it then maybe they should stick to Thomas the Tank Engine. -
evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 09:43 PM)
"Had he not killed Zod in MOS more people would have died.. so the way to save as many people as possible would be to kill the one killing all the people."
The problem isn't that he killed Zod, it's the fact that the movie was trying to force the viewers into feeling sympathy for Clark by making him kill Zod in a completely contrived scenario. Plus, the movie was loaded to the brim with death and destruction, so much so that it took away any impact the scene might have had.
"And yes he killed Zod in Superman 2, there was no way he could have survived, and yes other civilians we killed during the attacks."
In one of the cuts. If I'm not mistaken, there's deleted footage of Zod and his compatriots being arrested by police. Plus, in another version, Superman goes back in time to prevent Zod's escape from even happening.
"If MOS got one thing right it was the mass destruction and Zod getting his neck snapped by Superman (and act of desperation and anger, so many would have been killed otherwise) But it seems if views hater it then maybe they should stick to Thomas the Tank Engine."
"MOS" got nothing right except for its effects and actors. You can't even say that the mass destruction was unique, as it looks like a scene from any number of alien invasion/disaster movies. Hell, one could even say that it's another example of regurgitated material, its source being "The Avengers". -
evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 10:10 PM)
"It doesn't matter what happens in a deleted scene or what we written but never filmed, or alternative edits.. because in the offical film he killed Zod."
Actually, it does matter, especially considering the peculiar nature of their productions and their release, including TV versions that had featured additional scenes and extra footage such as Zod and co being escorted by police. -
supermanrocks-734-534668 — 9 years ago(December 05, 2016 10:47 PM)
Officially he did NOT kill Zod. Superman I and II were being made at the same time and Superman II was 75% done when they had to stop shooting so they could get Superman I out into theaters. In between that time the Salkinds, Richard Donner, and Marlon Brando were having various disputes which lead to Donner being fired. Once Superman The Movie was released they had to finish Superman II and in order to do so had to hire Richard Lester to direct. In order for a directer to get the film credit they have to have done at least half of the film so they went back and rewrote a lot of Donners material. They also removed Marlon Brando from the movie completely and replaced him with his mother which is why you have the MASSIVE plot hole of Superman getting his powers back. One minute he is told by his mother he can never go back and the next the green crystal lights up and moments later he is back in the city confronting Zod at the Daily Planet which no explanation whats so ever. In the Donner cut they put the Brando footage back in and that plot hole was was never an issue. Also the opening scene of Superman II was changed. In Superman I he catches the 1st missile and redirects into space and goes back to Earth to fix the damage the 2nd one had caused. Superman II the Donner cut picks up right where the first movie ends and it shows Superman directing the first missile into space not knowing that the Phantom Zone cube was floating in a direct path to it and upon the missile exploded cracked the cube releasing the 3 criminals. The Donner cut was the original concept for the movie and they went back and added footage that was shot and pieced together various other shots from screen test footage used at the time they were shooting back then which is why you see so many differences in hair styles from scene to scene. However once the Donner cut was finished and released it was stated that it was the original concept for the movie, therefore Superman did NOT originally kill Zod.
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 10:37 AM)
"I don't really count the death of the henchmen; but there death would be on the same level as the deaths Superman supposedly caused during his defense of Metropolis."
Bull$hit. In what universe would the deaths of THREE thugs equate to with the mass destruction and deaths of HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS in "Man of Steel"?