The real problem with the Princess's line.
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Clothes-Off — 10 years ago(February 24, 2016 07:05 AM)
It's not that it's "inappropriate" or "ruins it" or any other colossally stupid reason that I've seen here so far.
It's that, before that scene, the Princess had been portrayed as a strong woman willing to be imprisoned rather than go along with an evil plan. Then all of a sudden, she's a floozie just for a cheap laugh. This after two other characters point out that it's "not that kind of movie". How about, "Save the world and I'll get you a lifetime supply of Volvos and free merch from IKEA forever." Now that's a princess with strong negotiating skills.
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OddsAreIAmRight — 10 years ago(February 24, 2016 07:53 AM)
Yes, that's half of why it struck a discordant note thematically.
The other half was it was a sudden twist for the Eggsy character as well. He never even looked at Roxy's sexy ass before that. For all we know he was virgin as far as the movie told us. Now suddenly he's a playboy getting all worked up at the idea of plowing a princess he just met in the ass? WTF?! -
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julianmarq — 10 years ago(February 24, 2016 06:27 PM)
He had already accepted a kiss (which he only asked for as a joke to begin with) as "payment", everything else she offered.
She didn't have to and it was her prerogative. That is what matters, a strong woman offers whatever she wants.
And judging by her reactions once Eggsy came back, she was looking forward to it. Like I read somewhere else, she showed control of her sexuality beyond the kiss. That's how it's supposed to be.
The implication that sex should be different than say "offering volvos" is, like I said, sexist, because it carries the implication that a woman should be "demure", it puts standards on what is appropriate for "strong women" to do.
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Farwatch — 9 years ago(August 27, 2016 02:20 PM)
Well, she could legitimately be a nymphomaniac but
I mostly share the sentiment, that line just felt out of place. I understand the parody they were trying to make but it's still a crass and uncomfortable moment (especially if you watch the movie with family) and there's no going around it.
Another thing I disliked is the Church scene: technically it was fantastic and fun but the fact that the director amuses himself slaughtering Christian extremists so graphically and with such abandon is a clear "political statement" (because it's obvious that as a viewer you're supposed to feel elated at those people getting what "is coming to them" because of their intolerance) and I dislike political statements in movies.
Now, I do NOT have sympathies for that kind of religious nutcases (seriously) but that scene unequivocally puts the director on the
opposite
end of the spectrum, in a self-picked position where he's free to ridicule the other side without being subject to judgment in his turn.
That's why directors who have class and style never do that kind of thing: at most they'll make YOU feel closer to their preferred views by craftily manipulating your emotions, but they won't explicitly position themselves in the "debate". -
the_prophit01 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:30 PM)
That's why directors who have class and style never do that kind of thing: at most they'll make YOU feel closer to their preferred views by craftily manipulating your emotions,
Craftily manipulating the viewers political views doesn't sound class at all, it sounds really sinister. -
GuineaPig — 9 years ago(September 04, 2016 01:36 AM)
Well she's a strong woman so she can decide to have sex with whoever she wants, whenever she wants and ignore judgmental idiots who think they know better to tell a woman when and where she should or should not have sex.
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