A feminist girl power movie
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Soaring_Eagle_USA — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 12:36 AM)
Wonder Woman has been out in comic books since 1941. The hero has always been a woman. She's not a copy cat Superman, a gender swapped Thor, a gay Green Lantern, or any other feminist, white-knight, PC, SJW, cheapness.
Its an original character in its own right maintaining its originality.
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Master_Lo — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 06:51 AM)
You're right, but it's still possible they will still manage to turn this into a PC absurdity. Unless the director has a good sense of humour, and will fill the movie with hidden anti-feminist jokes.
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Skaathar — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 12:29 PM)
Ah see, now you're bringing gender into the argument whereas I made no mention of it at all. Seems you're the one who's being sexist. An agenda will hurt a movie if the agenda and the storyline/plot don't coincide. If the agenda is the storyline then obviously that will work. More often than not it doesn't, and that hurts a movie.
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Teflon_Boy — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 03:21 PM)
So a film about a fictional female character, directed by a female director is 'pathetic'? I wonder how many men are involved with the making of the film.., yet because the director is female it's supposedly thrown the world off axis rolls eyes Why is it always deemed 'PC' to make a film about anything other than a straight white male? The film stars a person darker than a pint of milk? PC!! How about a woman? SJW Feminist pandering!!!! Jheez I feel sorry for you.
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aquarianbrass — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 08:56 PM)
You deplorable neckbeards love stringing random words together like they mean something. What are you trying to say? Riding the "feminist PC" wave as oppose to riding the "sexist, typical patriarchal, done to death" wave?
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Soaring_Eagle_USA — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 12:52 AM)
The studio wants to make a good movie that will generate HUGE $$$ so they can do something easy like a sequel to generate even more $$$. To do this successfully you want to target the widest possible audience and you do that by not offending your core audience (which for super hero movies are males age 24-60) by pushing agendas.
Sony tried that with Ghost Busters 2016, and then doubled down on it when they were promoting the film, and it flopped spectacularly. Agenda pushing tends to slow the pacing of a movie, especially action movies, just to fit your chosen agenda into the script. None of those things translates to good box office numbers.
CBS tried that with Supergirl and it started mediocre, got moved to CW, and is continuing to drop. I'll be surprised if it gets renewed at the end of the year. -
mddwbsst — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 04:19 AM)
To do this successfully you want to target the widest possible audience and you do that by not offending your core audience (which for super hero movies are males age 24-60) by pushing agendas.
If there honestly offended by ideas as basic as equality and anti-discrimination its a pretty good argument why they shouldn't be allowed opinions.
Sony tried that with Ghost Busters 2016, and then doubled down on it when they were promoting the film, and it flopped spectacularly.
That film would have flopped even if it hadn't had an agenda. It was an inferior remake of a classic, that was honestly not that funny. -
Soaring_Eagle_USA — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 08:07 AM)
If there honestly offended by ideas as basic as equality and anti-discrimination its a pretty good argument why they shouldn't be allowed opinions.
Ah the definition of 3rd wave feminist bigotry. Girl power to the exclusion of all else is just sexism from the other direction. Most men (myself included) aren't at all upset by equality but when the goal is superiority and the excuse is, history of your fathers or abuse by your genetic group, requires an amount of privilege that is excusing the behavior in yourself that you abhor in others. Only the women are cool and smart. Men can only be buffoons or villains, is this the lesson you want your son(s) to learn?
As for opinions why are theirs any less valuable then yours?
That film would have flopped even if it hadn't had an agenda. It was an inferior remake of a classic, that was honestly not that funny.
This is true, but it did have an agenda, it was made visible as an agenda by the director and some of the cast, and it was done so poorly and so offensively that the end result is that equality is now harder, making a successful female centric movie is harder, and new attempts at true equality may be seen as grasping for privilege whether they are or not.