What the hell is wrong with Season 3???
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imakk2001 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:56 PM)
So you're posting from StarLabs instead of working at your job. Good thing Eobard left Wells' entire fortune to your dude. And why are you referring yourself in the 2nd person? At least you haven't started using "we". Yet.
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imakk2001 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:21 PM)
Still posting? Tucked your dude in for the night? In that case, are you excited about E19's Flash coming? Another speedster for you to be matriarch of. Speaking of, how did Jay, Wally, Jesse, Zoom and RF take it when you informed them you're their matriarch? Try to get it onscreen as flashbacks, please, because those will be your most amazing scenes ever.
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cobi-80620 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 01:24 PM)
I don't know what you deem to be standout but I think it was pretty standout when I saw a huge tanker levitating above a skyscraper.
I think Matt Letscher had his, so far, most genuine performance as Eobard Thawne in the premiere episode. His scenes were in fact the best ones in that whole episode.
Then we have the heroes vs. heroes moment in the crossover. It was pretty cool how Barry took down both Firestorm and Atom in half a minute then took on Supergirl, all this by himself. -
imakk2001 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 11:29 PM)
If the tanker had actually fallen on the building, that would have been a stand out moment. But good for you that seeing a ____ levitating above a ____ excites you, especially as you only see that happen on TF/SG and alien visitor/supernatural/horror movies/shows.
Both Letscher's RF and Barry's takedown of Firestorm/Atom/SG were good moments, I'll give you that. But they were unable to erase the awful writing surrounding them. And that's another problem: S1's writing enhanced the performances/CGI and vice versa. Since then the awful writing is what's remembered and not the performances/CGI. -
cobi-80620 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:22 PM)
Perhaps it wasn't the actual sight of the tanker above the skyscraper but the fact that Barry was able to handle such a situation without any casualties. That episode had been pretty uneventful until that scene.
What writing are you referring to in those situations? That aliens who were planning on exterminating all meta-humans had a plan on how to stop them without risking their own lives? That Barry actually used his powers to outsmart people who were trying to kill him? That Barry put Thawne in a similar glass cage to the one Zoom used on him? I'd call this smart writing. -
imakk2001 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:07 PM)
the fact that Barry was able to handle such a situation without any casualties
That's a non-existent bar you have for TF: when have casualties ever been an issue beyond being a plot device for metas.
What writing are you referring to in those situations?
Crossover: the Diggle/Cisco/LoT Flashpoint nonsense, deleting Thea/HR scene in the meet up but not Iris's, sidelining LoT in their ep, waste-of-time SG/Arrow eps, clunky "redemption" of Barry.
Flashpoint/RF: see below.
That Barry actually used his powers to outsmart people who were trying to kill him?
And your examples are?
That Barry put Thawne in a similar glass cage to the one Zoom used on him? I'd call this smart writing.
What was smart about it? Barry was going to gloat over RF until one of them died? Or he was waiting until he got enough testicular fortitude to kill him? Seriously, what was the point of this "smart writing" except doing/undoing this lame@ss version of Flashpoint to justify clunky "character development". -
cobi-80620 — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 05:33 PM)
when have casualties ever been an issue beyond being a plot device for metas.
When the singularity was going to destroy the universe and kill basically everyone in it, Barry and Ronnie stopped that from happening.
Crossover: the Diggle/Cisco/LoT Flashpoint nonsense, deleting Thea/HR scene in the meet up but not Iris's, sidelining LoT in their ep, waste-of-time SG/Arrow eps, clunky "redemption" of Barry
What does that have to do with the heroes vs. heroes scene?
And your examples are?
Took down Firestorm and Atom by throwing lightning. Used his powers to phase through Supergirl so that she destroyed the mind-control machine.
What was smart about it? Barry was going to gloat over RF until one of them died? Or he was waiting until he got enough testicular fortitude to kill him? Seriously, what was the point of this "smart writing" except doing/undoing this lame@ss version of Flashpoint to justify clunky "character development".
Barry at that point thought he could rule over his own life as he saved both his parents without thinking twice. Barry had stopped fearing Thawne, if Thawne is just locked away he can't do anymore harm to anyone so he puts him in a cage that he knows can hold speedsters. -
imakk2001 — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 11:10 PM)
kill basically everyone in it
Thank you for proving my point: casualties wasn't on anyone's (fictional characters'/viewers') when THE UNIVERSE was about to be destroyed.
What does that have to do with the heroes vs. heroes scene?Took down Firestorm and Atom by throwing lightning. Used his powers to phase through Supergirl so that she destroyed the mind-control machine.
Crossover: the Diggle/Cisco/LoT Flashpoint nonsense, deleting Thea/HR scene in the meet up but not Iris's, sidelining LoT in their ep, waste-of-time SG/Arrow eps, clunky "redemption" of Barry: the hamfisted writing through FOUR eps drowned out the heroes v. heroes scene.
Barry at that point thought he could rule over his own life as he saved both his parents without thinking twice. Barry had stopped fearing Thawne, if Thawne is just locked away he can't do anymore harm to anyone so he puts him in a cage that he knows can hold speedsters.
That's not how you start a new season, it's how you end the show. Again, what was smart about it? -
cobi-80620 — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 06:43 AM)
Sorry, had no idea there were
rules
for what you cannot do in a season premiere. Barry used a villain's creation on another villain, I'd call that clever.
We're talking about season 3 of The Flash, the Flash episode of the crossover had it's climax in that heroes vs. heroes scenes and it worked. The fight was great and my favourites parts were Barry vs. Firestorm, Atom and Supergirl. People were complaiming that Flashpoint had no impact on the show and they decided to make Flashpoint the reason that the aliens were invading. Now you're here complaiming that Flashpoint made an impact on the crossover. -
imakk2001 — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 11:33 PM)
You don't get it. Barry has no other plans than to keep RF imprisoned. That's it. End of story. Except it wasn't the end. In fact, that was just a hamfisted way of keeping RF as a really clunky/convoluted get-out-of-Flashpoint-free card. But since you are thrilled by large objects levitating above other objects, I can see why you think ham-fisted/clunky/convoluted writing = "smart writing".
Now you're here complaiming that Flashpoint made an impact on the crossover.
Nope, I'm talking about how the writing failed Flashpoint and the crossover, and not that one had an impact on the other. Although to be fair, Flashpoint was an empty ep title used as watch-bait and to justify "character development" in subsequent eps, hence the horrendous writing. -
niks_foonts — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 10:56 PM)
Frankly, I think that's nonsense. There have been plenty of great moments throughout the season. The KF ep, the crossover ep, the second Jesse Quick ep, and the mid season finale all had plenty of great moments.
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niks_foonts — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:49 AM)
Noit really wasn't. There were plenty of flaws in previous eps writing as well. I can bet when season 4 comes around, people will be moaning about how great season 3 was and how season 4 sucks in comparison and so on.
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hnt_dnl — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 08:02 PM)
I think they need to quit this new Wells crap every year, although I have warmed up to HR. Just bring E2 Harry over permanently. Also, lose Iris West. The more they insert her into Team Flash, the more it kills the interactions. She's not funny, has no chemistry with Barry, has nothing but filler dialogue, and is nothing more than an ornament to look pretty when she's in the lab, which is 100% of the time now!