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    cdull — 9 years ago(December 09, 2016 05:32 AM)

    Yeah knowing and respecting the source material can make a big difference. Though sometimes you can love a character and the film still turn out bad. Like Joel Schumacher with Batman and Robin or Bryan Singer with Superman Returns. And the DC Animated guys aren't perfect, just look at their Killing Joke to see that!
    Speaking of the animated films did you know there is a Justice League Vs. Teen Titans movie and next year we're getting Teen Titans: The Judas Contract? I'm really exicted about that last one. I haven't read the comic but I know it's one of the best comic stories of all time.
    Yeah Joe Manganiello will be playing Deathstroke in The Batman. Armie Hammer might be in it too. Nothing has been announced but Joe has been trolling twitter with hints.
    There was an animated film set in the universe of Batman the Animated series called The Mystery of Batwoman. That had Kathy Duquesne because DC didn't want to use Kathy Kane in a family friendly movie due to the violence associated with her.
    I am going to read the Batwoman comics next year. Sometime after I get done reading the Birds of Prey and Batgirl comics. Not sure if that will be before or after Teen Titans though. Then I'm going to read Nightwing comics and finish with Batman.
    I'm also going to be checking out the TV shows Lost Girl and Wynonna Earp too.
    As to the complaints of homophobes? EFF 'em. If they're upset then we're doing something right.
    I really like Stephanie Brown. I'm glad her Batgirl comics are getting published. It will be fun checking those out. DC has been putting out a lot of stuff from the 80s and 90s. So this is a pretty exciting time for a DC fan!
    She's going to hit me with the frying pan.

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      DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 04:06 AM)

      Yeah knowing and respecting the source material can make a big difference. Though sometimes you can love a character and the film still turn out bad. Like Joel Schumacher with Batman and Robin or Bryan Singer with Superman Returns. And the DC Animated guys aren't perfect, just look at their Killing Joke to see that!
      Yes. It can and with Joel Schumacher I actually didn't mind Batman Forever and I liked it more than Batman and Batman Returns. A lot of people who put down that movie now forget how popular it was when it came out and that it was one of the most successful movies of the 90s but Batman and Robin was terrible 'cause they made it too light and comical. I think Schumacher was trying to attract a younger audience by making it lighter and more like Adam West's Batman but I still think he should have gone with Batman: Triumphant over Batman & Robin and if he had I don't think the 90s Batman series would have been restarted. I liked Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy and even though Alicia Silverstone was a horrible choice to play Barbara she did look kinda sexy as Batgirl (and would have been better as Supergirl) so that is two good things I will say about the film but apart from that there were a lot of problems with Batman vs Robin. George Clooney was not a good choice to play Batman and a lot of people didn't like Arnold Schwarzenegger's version of Mr Freeze. I can't remember if I told you the funny thing about Arnold was he was their choice for Batman and they only went with George Clooney 'cause Arnold wanted to play a villain for a change so they gave him the role of Mr Freeze.
      Superman Returns wasn't bad and in comparison to Superman 3 and 4 I think it was the best movie out of the 3 but for many people (Critics especially) it was too light and shouldn't have continued off the Christopher Reeve movies which goes to show how different critics were back then 'cause the main complaint about Man of Steel was it was too dark and not light enough when a lot of them were saying Superman Returns should have been like Batman Begins and Superman wasn't edgy enough and was outdated. I remember hearing Superman Returns was originally going to be part of a trilogy and there was a lot of talk about the sequel online and in magazines around the time the movie come out but it wasn't as well-received as they were hoping it would be so it was scrapped. One of the problems with Superman Returns in my opinion was it was made too many years later to be a sequel to the Christopher Reeve movies and while it was classed as one by some people there were too many continuity errors for it to take place after Superman 4 and if you watch 4 and then Returns you can see them. Lois and Jimmy should have been older too for it to take place all those years later which they weren't.
      I think it would have been better if they had made a Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher movie instead 'cause more people were familiar with Dean Cain as Superman than Christopher Reeve at the time 'cause it was more recent and I remember most of my friends were pointing out the differences between Superman Returns and Lois and Clark and didn't understand why Perry and Jimmy were so different and why Lois didn't already know he was Superman. A Superman movie with Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher could have been so much better and they already had the leftover script from what was going to be the fifth season with Supergirl, Lana and Braniac joining and they could have partly used that. Dean Cain will always be the best Superman to me and he was very good looking (heehee) and I say that as somebody who prefers women over men.
      Plus with Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman having access to all of the characters and villains Warner that Bros wouldn't let them use it would have been interesting to have seen what they would have done with them in movies and Warner Bros stopped the show from being ever better blocking them.
      Speaking of the animated films did you know there is a Justice League Vs. Teen Titans movie and next year we're getting Teen Titans: The Judas Contract? I'm really exicted about that last one. I haven't read the comic but I know it's one of the best comic stories of all time.
      I did hear about the Justice League vs Teen Titans and I haven't seen that one yet but I have been meaning to get around to it. Do you know what characters were in it and if it was any good? I haven't heard about the Teen Titans: The Judas Contract animated movie but that sounds interesting and I am going to get it when it comes out on DVD next year. I am surprised DC has never tried to make animated movies of their big crossover events like Crisis on Infinite Earth, Identity Crisis, Genesis, Infinite Crisis, Future's End, A Death Of the Family and Batman Eternal 'cause that would allow them to have a lot of different superheroes in them.
      There was an animated film set in the universe of Batman the Animated series called The Mystery of Batwoman. That had Kathy Duquesne because DC

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        cdull — 9 years ago(December 14, 2016 03:53 AM)

        I think Batman Forever was the most successful of the Burton-Schumacher films, so a lot of people like it. Batman Returns is a very nihilistic film that gives us the perfect actor fro the Penguin then botches his character. I think Batman and Robin turned everything in Batman Forever to 11 and added more characters then it needed and actors who played their roles far more seriously then was needed. Say what you will about casting Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze, at least he knew the film was a comedy and went all out with his performance. Which is more then can be said with George Clooney's very bland Batman.
        Very few films are bad when compared to Superman 3 and 4.
        A lot of people didn't like that the film never explained why Superman left and was gone for so long. They also didn't like him spying on Lois and essentially being a dead-beat dad. Myself I didn't like the costume, it did no justice to Brandon Routh's physique and the desaturization of color, which is a trend that is being used in the DCEU. And it needs to stop!
        I remember a lot of people on-line wanted Tom Welling as Superman. Been interesting if they had, continuing where Season 5 of Smallville ended. This actually could have been a good thing for the show. They could still do the TV series and have the movies for big events, like Doomsday.
        I haven't seen Justice League Vs. Teen Titans yet but a quick search finds the Titans consist of Robin (Damian Wayne), Starfire, Raven, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes), and Beast Boy. Cyborg is on the JLA but he hangs out with the Titans and Nightwing appears too. At the end of the film we see Terra heading towards Titans Tower. Reviews for it are mixed to good.
        Mask of the Phantasm is not a good movie. It is a great movie! It's the best Batman movie to date. Go out and watch it now. I'll wait.
        I never really got into Batman Beyond. I might try it again sometime in the future. But I would have watched a show with Batgirl and Nightwing! They're two of my favorite characters and it would be nice to see them get out from the shadow of the Bat.
        Yeah I'm planning on reading the New 52 and Rebirth trades. Might hunt down Kevin Smith's run on Green Arrow as well as Green Arrow and Black Canary. Toss in the novels I want to read this year, I got a full plate. Luckily I am a fast reader. I was unaware of a new Vampirella series. So there's one more thing to look out for!
        Well you haven't steered me wrong so far!
        We do seem to have similar tastes so if you like it I'm sure I will too.
        Amazon sells a wide variety of adult toys for just that very purpose!
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          DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 04:32 AM)

          Yes. I think it was the most successful out of all the films too and I remember how popular it was when it came out in 1995 here. The soundtrack was also popular and Seal's 'A Kiss From A Rose' and U2's 'Hold Me, Kiss Me, Thrill' were big hits on the radio but U2's music video was kinda confusing 'cause it had the Joker in it who wasn't in Batman Forever and I think they filmed their music video without knowing what villains were going to be used in the movie. Batman and Robin had some good ideas with Mr Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane as the villains along with the addition of Batgirl but they were poorly handled and executed and you are right about there being too many of them in one movie. I think Me Freeze and Poison Ivy could work in a movie but Bane should have been held off and used as his own villain instead of just as a Henchman. I wasn't particularly a fan of the Bane in the 'Dark Knight Rises' either 'cause the actor was too short and Bane isn't Bane without the venom to me and it is like having a movie of Superman where he doesn't have any powers. The venom is a big part of the character and always was and he was supposed to be a highly intelligent scientist that created the venom (and T1/Titan in the Arkham games) but we didn't see that with him in Batman and Robin or the Dark Knight Rises and instead we got something more like a secondary version of Ra's ul Gul.
          George Clooney was very bland and I think there were better actors at the time that could have played him and I never understood why they couldn't just get Val Kilmer back 'cause he later said in an interview he would have played the role again if they had offered it to him and he didn't find out they were making another Batman movie or he had been replaced by George Clooney until one of his friends told him about it. Sylvester Stallone seems like somebody who could have been good for the role but perhaps he turned them down like Jean Claude Van Dame and Steven Segal did. Those two could have been interesting as Batman 'cause they could actually fight and I feel we haven't really seen an on screen version of Batman that is as good as fighting as he is portrayed to be in the comics and the closest we have got was Batman in the Arkham games. We might get to see that in Ben Affleck's new movie and I hope we get to see him make good use of all his gadgets like the the Batclaw, remote batarang and the advanced grapple accelerator and it would be fun to see him glide around Gotham City with his cape like he does in Arkham City, Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight.
          Very few films are bad when compared to Superman 3 and 4.
          No. They aren't but at least they were better than Killjoy and some of the other really bad Horror movies I have seen like the Evil Bong, The Way of the Vampire, My Little Eye, Head of the House, Succubus and the Silent Night, Deadly Night and later Hellraiser movies. Some of them were so bad I couldn't last half the way through them and many people say you need to be stoned yourself to enjoy the Evil Bong movies.
          When I hear people say Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice was the worst movie of all time I laugh 'cause I have seen far worse movies and movies that have made huge mistakes like had hands that come out of nowhere and pass people swords in the middle of a fight, visible cameraman walking around in the background, cars in movies based in the 1800s, people picking their noses and eating it in crowds and vampires who have reflections. There are some awful, awful movies out there and I got a few of them in Horror collections with other movies and I think it explains why they were so cheap now 'cause there were one or two good movies in them and the other 8 movies were horrible.
          I don't know if you watched the Bonus Features for Superman Returns but it shows them discovering Brandon Routh for the role and he had to wear a muscle suit underneath the Superman costume 'cause he wasn't very muscular at the time and it wasn't until he did Chuck he started spending more time in a gym. I don't think Brandon was a bad choice for Superman though and I blame the writers for the problems in the movie and a good Superman could have worked with Brandon Routh as the lead. Tom Welling could have been good as Superman in a movie and I would love to see a movie of Smallville based on the comic books but Tom Welling said in multiple interviews he didn't want to wear the Superman suit and that was one of the reasons we only got to see him wearing it from afar in the final episode of Smallville. Tom Welling said the only way he would have wore the suit was if they had made some major changes 'cause he thought the underwear on the outside looked funny. I don't think he was much of a superhero or comic book fan in real life but funny enough Michael Shannon was and I heard he was a huge fan of Superman and originally auditioned to play Clark instead of Lex but he got the role of Lex when they cast Tom Welling.
          Thanks for telling me about Justice Le

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            cdull — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 07:16 AM)

            I had the album for Batman Forever. I really loved the song by U2. I hadn't seen the video in 20 years so I went to YouTube. There's two versions of the video. One was re-edited by a fan to include clips from The Dark Knight. There was an incomplete version which had clips from Batman Forever and an animated Jim Carrey Riddler. I'm not 100% certain because I can not find a complete version of the original video.
            Heck not only was Bane too short in The Dark Knight Rises he was the wrong ethnicity. In the comics he's Hispanic but they turned him white for the movie! I swear Bane's look was influenced by the luchadors of Mexico, like the legendary El Santo.
            http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/lucha-5.jpg
            I hate to nitpick but Bane didn't invent Venom. You can read about the drugs origins in Batman: Venom. Bane's origins are in Batman: Vengeance Of Bane. But Bane was incredibly smart in the comics and his own villain, not a lackey of anyone else. He did work with Ra's al Ghul for awhile but as a partner, thinking he was going to become his heir and marry Talia.
            I don't think Joel Schumacher got a long with Val Kilmer. I heard he has a reputation for being difficult. Which is a shame because I did like him as Batman. Did you know in the 70s Stallone was considered for the role of Superman? So was Arnold Schwarzenegger! Thank God Richard Donner fought for Christopher Reeve. I have a hard time seeing Segal as Batman. Van Damme would be cool but his accent might make things hard. I always wanted him to play Captain America villain Batroc the Leaper. CHristain Bale's Batman could fight but the fight choregraphy was a mess. Ben Affleck's a very physical Batman and his technique reminds me a lot of the Arkham games. Maybe they'll borrow some more from the Arkham games and have Batman using more gadgets.
            I laugh when people say a blockbuster is the worst filma ever made because I have seen some incredibly bad films. Like Plan Nine from Outer Space, Manos the Hands of Fate, and the Beast of Yucca Flats. If you never heard of them you are lucky! I do feel sorry you saw Way of the Vampire.
            I don't know why they didn't let Routh work out. Other comic book films have. Heck, Christopher Reeve had a swimmers body and had to beef up for Superman. So they had him train under David Prowse, the man who worse the Darth Vader costume in Star Wars! Did you know the reason we only saw Superman from a distance in Smallville was because they used a CGI body with Tom Welling's head on it! The only time he wore the costume was just the top and it was for the very last shot of the show. He might not have been a comic fan but he played the Hell out of the role! Michael Rosenbaum got the right role though because he was a phenomenal Lex!
            You're welcome! Mask of the Phantasm stars the cast of the animated series, so it has Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil. I knew you love Nightwing and Batgirl. I really think they are long overdue for their own series or movie. Yeah the rights to the Monolith reverted back to Palmiotti in 2013, so it is no longer a DC property. I hadn't heard of Power Girl: Power Trip before so I looked it up. Discovered a Starfire comic by Jimmy Palmiotti.
            So that's a couple more to the read pile! You are quite the corrupting influence, young lady! Just kidding.
            Remember I sad the homophobes can go eff themselves and you said not literally? Well I was just pointing out how they can quite literally do that!
            She's going to hit me with the frying pan.

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              DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 21, 2016 04:00 AM)

              I had the album for Batman Forever. I really loved the song by U2. I hadn't seen the video in 20 years so I went to YouTube. There's two versions of the video. One was re-edited by a fan to include clips from The Dark Knight. There was an incomplete version which had clips from Batman Forever and an animated Jim Carrey Riddler. I'm not 100% certain because I can not find a complete version of the original video.
              I didn't know there were two versions of the music video. The only version that aired here on Channel V, Video Hits and Rage was the version I told you about and that still airs on some channels here like Music Max when they have countdowns for the greatest songs from movies along with 'A Kiss From A Rose.' I have the soundtrack for Batman Forever too and I haven't played it for a while but I remember there being a song by PJ Harvey on it I liked too. Both 'A Kiss From A Rose' and 'Hold Me, Kiss Me, Thrill Me' were insanely popular here though and I think the first one was one of the most played songs of the year and was a number one hit on Rage and Video Hits. The 90s was full of great music and great Alternative Rock artists and bands with the exception of cheesy boy and girl bands like the Backstreet Boys, NSYNC and the Spice Girls in the second half of the decade my Sister and I loved mainstream music back then.
              What did you think of Jim Carrey as the Riddler? One of my only problems with the villains in that movie was I felt they rushed the Harvey Dent/ Two Face storyline and it would have been better if they had started the movie with Harvey Dent as Batman's friend before he got his face burnt on one side and become Two Face and they showed a flashback of it happening but I would have liked to have seen Harvey Dent's descent into madness and how he developed multiple personalities instead of just having the movie start off with Harvey as Two Face especially after what we saw with him in Batman Returns. There was originally going to be a third Batman by Tim Burton that was going to have Two Face as the villain and the introduction of Robin but he was going to be played by the same actor who played him in Batman Returns and from what I have heard about that movie it might have focused more on how Harvey become Two Face. I think Nolan's 'Dark Knight' movie did a better job of handling that but I think Two Face was wasted in that movie and should have been held off for the 'Dark Knight Rises' 'cause the Joker completely outshined him and we never got to see him stand on his own as the crime boss he is in the comic books.
              With Catwoman joining in the Dark Knight Rises who Two Face has a history with I feel having him burnt towards the end of the 'Dark Knight' and coming back as Two Face in the 'Dark Knight Rises' would have been a lot better and they could have used Black Mask as the secondary villain in the 'Dark Knight' instead and had the Joker take over Roman's empire like he did in Arkham Origins. Even though like some other fans I was kinda disappointed with the creators of that game using the Joker as the main villain I liked his introduction and I liked how they added all the other villains in it with a bounty on Batman's head. In my opinion Arkham Origins and the entire Arkham Series could easily work as movies but there would just have to be another film or two between Origins and Arkham Asylum. I didn't know Bane was not the one who created the venom in the comic books and in the Origins game he was and he created another formula called 'T1' that turned him into the monster sized 9 foot Bane with the huge arms and the glowing green eyes we see in the comic books and other Arkham games and the 'T1' formula is what was later used by Dr Penelope Young to create the Titan.
              One thing I do remember in all of the comic books I have read with Bane in them he was a short skinny guy that used venom to make him bigger and Batman and Robin got that right but wasted him as a henchman. I know he was Hispanic in the Arkham games but I wasn't sure if he was in the comic books too and I think you might be right about where his influence come from. In Arkham Origin Bane was able to uncover Batman's secret identity on his computer and nearly killed Alfred when he broke into the Bat Cave but when he used the T1 formula it made him lose his memory and turned him more primitive and that was something Bane was trying to fix with it before he used it on himself but he was never able to perfect the formula. There was a continuity error with that in Arkham Asylum 'cause when we saw him for the first time he was drained of venom and back to his normal size and there was no mention of what happened to him using the T1 formula but I think if they make an Arkham Origins 2 they will probably have Batman find a way to drain him off it and turn him back to his regular size. Unless I am mistaken the stuff Bane had in Arkham Asylum was Titan and not venom which explains why he is more the same size he was towards the end

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                cdull — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 11:34 AM)

                I dunno. Maybe I found something different. Like I said I had trouble finding a complete video. Sometimes I want to know what is wrong with people who upload videos! BTW, I love NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys!
                I liked Jim as the Riddler. The problem with Two Face was they recast him. Which made it hard to have an continuity with him. Also their was a prologue to Batman and Robin where Batman helps Harvey round up the rest of the Penguin's gang. Nolan shouldn't have killed Two Face. He should have had him as the villain for The Dark Knight rises.
                Does Catwoman have a history with Two Face in the comics? I know she does in the Arkham games but they're a different continuity. I liked Black Mask in Origins and felt kinda cheated when it turned out he was really the Joker. Yeah Venom was created by a scientist in Gotham and for awhile Batman used it to make himself stronger. You really should read Batman: Venom. It's a great story, though very tragic with two of the worst fathers in comics.
                They must have changed Bane's backstory because in Vengeance of Bane he was already a muscular man when he was used in the Venom experiments. Been awhile since I played Origins so I do not recall if he was on Titan or Venom.
                The thing I liked about Titan and it's use on the inmates in Arkham was it was a homage to an old Batman story where Hugo Strange was turning patients from an asylum into monster men. It was remade as Batman and the Monster Men and was the inspiration for a Bruce Timm cartoon for Batman's 75th anniversary.
                I'm not a fan of Hollywood rebooting their franchises when they get a different actor. I think audiences are smart enough it's the same character, even if it's a new look. Just like when different artists work on a comic book. With a few tweaks Amazing Spider-Man could have been a sequel to Raimi's films and Batman Begins could have been a prequel to the Burton-Schumacher films.
                I'd prefer a Batgirl movie to a TV series.
                She's going to hit me with the frying pan.
                I still think it's possible the Birds of Prey could appear in Gotham City Sirens. Maybe Barbara puts them together to take down Harley's team? I did read a great comic by Gail Simone with Nightwing and Oracle. Really made me want to see more of them together. Gail Simone should be allowed to right the script for a solo Batgirl movie or a Birds of Prey movie.
                Don't be sorry! I'm enjoying myself.

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                  DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 04:05 AM)

                  I dunno. Maybe I found something different. Like I said I had trouble finding a complete video. Sometimes I want to know what is wrong with people who upload videos!
                  Well, I have noticed that myself on You Tube too and sometimes people upload music videos and it is missing the last 30 seconds of a song and it is annoying but what is even more annoying is when they have the complete videos on the site and then for some unknown reason they remove them but leave the incomplete videos on and I have noticed a lot of videos have been removed from You Tube over the past 3 years when I have had friends over and tried to show them music videos on You Tube that I knew were there before. You Tube is a great site though and it is one of the sites I look at the most when I am on the internet 'cause it has such a large range of music videos and there are so many songs I loved hearing on radio when I was younger that I didn't even know had music videos 'cause we didn't get them on any of our music channels or music shows in Australia in the 80s and 90s. I have also discovered a lot of artists and bands on You Tube that I wouldn't have known about if it wasn't for the site but it can be so annoying when they remove videos or when they make them only available in North America.
                  I didn't know you were a fan of the Backstreet Boys or NSYNC so I am sorry if you like them but boy and girl bands are just REALLY not the type of music I like and there were so many of them in the late 90s and early 00s like Five, Ultra, Human Nature, LFO, The Pussycat Dolls, S Club7, M2M, Westlife, Boyzone, Take That, 98 Degrees, Boyz II Men, Atomic Kitten, Hanson, Bardot etc and they used to drive me nuts!!
                  I didn't mind some of Boyzone's songs and I like Ronan Keating's solo material and have all his albums and 'I Want You Back' by Take That was okay but the more it went on the worse I felt it become and some of it to me was so repetitive and I couldn't tell them apart. Did you know Robbie Williams started out in Take That? He went on to become really successful as a solo artist and has had multiple number one hits here and in the UK. Marit Larsen started out in M2M and I love her solo martial 'cause she changed genres to singer/songwriter and two of my favourite songs by her are.
                  I liked Jim as the Riddler. The problem with Two Face was they recast him. Which made it hard to have an continuity with him. Also their was a prologue to Batman and Robin where Batman helps Harvey round up the rest of the Penguin's gang. Nolan shouldn't have killed Two Face. He should have had him as the villain for The Dark Knight rises.
                  You are right about Two Face and I think it was a mistake to recast him too even though I think Tommy Lee Jones wasn't a bad choice for the role and with the new Batman movies being set in his later years with many characters and villains already being established I think if they have Harvey Dent in one of them he will have been Two Face for a number of years. I have a feeling most of Batman's villains that have already been established in previous movies won't get backstories this time and it will only be villains like Deathstroke (who as you know is confirmed) who will get backstories. Two Face could have been a good villain in the 'Dark Knight Rises' and I don't know why Christopher Nolan chose to waste him especially after he said in interviews he was having trouble using Batman villains 'cause he had made the movies too realistic and I recall there being rumours about Black Mask appearing in the 'Dark Knight Rises' but they turned out to be false or Nolan changed his mind about using him. I think the Penguin, the Riddler, Black Mask, Victor Zsaz, Hugo Strange and Calendar Man all could have worked in the Nolan movies but he found them to be too outlandish and instead used a villain who was one of the most outlandish.
                  Does Catwoman have a history with Two Face in the comics? I know she does in the Arkham games but they're a different continuity. I liked Black Mask in Origins and felt kinda cheated when it turned out he was really the Joker. Yeah Venom was created by a scientist in Gotham and for awhile Batman used it to make himself stronger. You really should read Batman: Venom. It's a great story, though very tragic with two of the worst fathers in comics.
                  I will look into Batman: Venom and order it online when I make my next order to Amazon in January but for now I am not ordering anything off the site 'cause it won't come until next year. In some of the comic books I have read with Bane in them Batman couldn't defeat him when he had the venom and he had to hit him with the Batmobile and he later found him when he was in his normal form and he was a lot smaller and Batman was able to defeat him easily. I don't know when they changed it but it was the same with Batman and Robin too and the criminal Lionel Luthor used the venom on was small too. Catwoman has a history with Two Face in a few of the continues but they vary and in o

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                    cdull — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 12:42 PM)

                    I love YouTube too. They're great for finding old songs and new ones too. I've been watching a lot of TV shows created for YouTube. Mostly review shows.
                    Hey, I'm not offended. I realize boy bands are not for everyone and I accept it for what it is. I didn't know Robbie Williams started in a boy band. I have listened to some of his solo work though. Thanks for the Marit Larsen videos!
                    I had a hard time accepting Two Face's death in The Dark Knight because we saw other characters in the movie fall from the same height and live! I was surprised Nolan never wanted to use Penguin, saying he only wanted realistic villains. How is a short gangster with delusions of class unrealistic?
                    I realize I need to read more comics with Catwoman now.
                    She's always been one of my favorite villains and some great writers have handled her.
                    I'm a bigger fan of Wally West as the Flash and I would loved to see him in a movie. I haven't read a Flash title since Barry came back except for the Flashpoint Paradox. I heard Green Lantern will be in Justice League. I think they should use Jon Stewart because the cast is incredibly white and I think the public knows him more then Hal Jordan thanks to JL/JLU.
                    Huh. There was an arc in Ultimate Spider-Man where a fight between Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus interrupted the filming of a Spider-Man movie. Tobey McGuire and Sam Raimi appeared in it, as did an actor dressed as the Vulture. Guess art imitates real life. I read some comics with Jessica Drew Spider-Woman as a kid. Now that I think about it most of the comics I read as a kid had strong heroes but their weren't that many when I was in my teens. Weird.
                    I would love it if they could do a Batgirl TV series that would cover bigger stories in a movie. It could include Dick Grayson, Black Canary, and Huntress.
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                      DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 04:10 AM)

                      I love YouTube too. They're great for finding old songs and new ones too. I've been watching a lot of TV shows created for YouTube. Mostly review shows.
                      Yeah. I have noticed a lot of TV shows have been turning up on You Tube lately and I saw the first episode of Mackenzie Porter's new TV show, Travelers on You Tube but it was like it wasn't uploaded properly or somebody had filmed a TV with a video camera and it made it very difficult to watch. I saw some episodes of TV shows on You Tube before they aired in Australia and TV shows that didn't air here on You Tube too but they have been removed so I don't think they were supposed to be there and the person who uploaded them was very naughty.
                      It is such a pain being behind with some TV shows and I used to try to avoid some TV websites 'cause I didn't want to have the shows spoiled but when the wait grew longer and longer like it has with Gotham I gave up and read the spoilers and buy them when they come out on DVD. Beccy and I are enjoying the second season of Gotham and we just made it up to the episode where Mr Freeze joins and so far I think it has been better than the first season. I am disappointed they haven't added Aaron Cash yet though and it would be good to see him in the show since he was in Gotham for a long time and was a GCPD officer before he worked at Arkham Asylum and his partner was Michael Lane (the second Azrael).
                      Hey, I'm not offended. I realize boy bands are not for everyone and I accept it for what it is. I didn't know Robbie Williams started in a boy band. I have listened to some of his solo work though. Thanks for the Marit Larsen videos!
                      It is kinda like Country, Rap and Metal. There are some people who aren't fans of those genres and I never liked Rap or Hip Hop but I grew up listening to Country Music 'cause of my Aunt and Uncle and I actually like a few subgenres of metal like Heavy Metal, Glam Metal, Power Metal, Progressive Metal and Symphonic Metal but I don't like Death metal or metal with satanic lyrics with screaming and roaring.
                      Symphonic Metal is underrated and has some great singers like Liv Kristine (Leaves Eyes), Annette Olzon (Nightwish), Simone Simons (Epica), Angelica Rylin (Murder Of My Sweet) Anya (Sirenia) and Sharon den Adel (Within Temptation) and Progressive Metal is so different than any other type of Metal I have heard before and I like Serenity, Seventh Wonder, Shadow Gallery, Kamelot, Spheric Universe Experience and Power Quest and there are so many good bands in Europe at the moment. One of my friends is a huge fan of Metal and her husband and her went through a goth phase when they were teenagers and they were always dressed in black and playing Heavy Metal on their walkmans. I am a person that likes multiple genres and I never really tied myself down to one genre like some people I know did but I would say my favourite genres are Rock, Alternative and Singer/ Songwriter.
                      I had a hard time accepting Two Face's death in The Dark Knight because we saw other characters in the movie fall from the same height and live! I was surprised Nolan never wanted to use Penguin, saying he only wanted realistic villains. How is a short gangster with delusions of class unrealistic?
                      The reasons behind Christopher Nolan not using the Penguin will always remain lost on me and it was like he had never read any of the Batman Comic books or watched the old 60s TV show and only knew of the version of the Penguin we saw in Batman Returns which was very outlandish and nothing like the Penguin that we see in most Batman comic books. He definitely could have worked in one of them and in my opinion he is even more realistic than Ra' or the Joker 'cause there have actually been Mob Bosses in real life that fit that description. Maybe it was Christopher Nolan didn't see him as being enough of a physical threat to Batman and wanted somebody that Batman could fight and be a challenge for him to defeat but they could have added another villain working for the Penguin kinda like they had Batman face Solomon Grundy in the Iceberg Lounge in Arkham City when he confronted the Penguin. One of the reasons the Penguin was said to become a villain in some adaptions like the Arkham games was 'cause the Cobblepotts were one of the founders of Gotham and were millionaires that fought with the Waynes and the Elliott's and something happened and Penguin didn't get any of their money and he believed Gotham owed him it.
                      I realize I need to read more comics with Catwoman now. She's always been one of my favorite villains and some great writers have handled her.
                      Selina Kyle is an interesting character 'cause sometimes she is a villain and other times she is a superhero and has worked with Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing and the Birds of Prey to take down other villains. She is often portrayed as a thief but she doesn't agree with murdering innocent people or destroying Gotham which is why she often teams up with the Bat Family and saves innocent people. In one

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                        cdull — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 08:36 AM)

                        The first episode of Supergirl was leaked on-line and was eventually pulled. There has been a lot of speculation that might have been deliberate and not accidental so they can get interest in the show. Who knows though. So you can get Gotham on DVD in Australia? Well that's better then not getting it at all. I think the second season is better then the first and I find the third season better then the second! I loved their take on M. Freeze and the kid who might become the Joker, with Barbara as his kinda Harley Quinn. I like what they're doing, even when they make changes from the comics or leave out characters I would want to see. I want the show to do it's own thing instead of trying to listen to the fans. Unlike a certain show we know of.
                        Yeah a lot of people do not realize how varied metal is and I tend to like it all. But then like you I have never been tied to one type of music and grew up with a little bit of everything. I think most teens went through a goth phase in high school. I know I did. Wearing black and reading Anne Rice and pondering on the futility of life.
                        I always wanted Bob Hoskins as the Penguin. The film The Long Good Friday really showcases what a menacing gangster of a small stature could be like.
                        What I like is the Cobblepots were shown making their money in steel and the Wayne's in technology. When the steel crash came the Cobblepots lost everything but the Wayne's didn't. There's a animosity between the families because of this.
                        I've read a ton of Catwoman stuff in Batman's book and her title in the mid-90s, but there is just so much more! She is one of my favorite supervillains! I love that hse steals but does not kill and always has her own agenda. I always liked it best when Batman and Catwoman knew each others identities. So I don't mind if Gotham goes that route. And I love Gotham's Selina! She is just so perfect and I love how she hold her own with more experienced actors and has great chemistry with Bruce.
                        If they do add another female character it should be Black Canary. He has a long history with the JSA and the JLA and needs a good depiction in live-action. So far live-action has failed her. Plus next year is her 70th anniversary!
                        I've played a lot of Spider-Man video games, going all the way back to the one of the Atari 2600! I've even played the ones based on the movies, Ultimate Spider-Man and Capcom Vs. Marvel where Spidey and Venom are playable characters.
                        Jim Gordon will be in the Justice League movie, so he could appear in a Batgirl movie. I have no story preference for a movie, but if Gail Simone writes it is guaranteed to be awesome!
                        May the Force be with you.

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                          DebLovesBeccy — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:03 AM)

                          The first episode of Supergirl was leaked on-line and was eventually pulled. There has been a lot of speculation that might have been deliberate and not accidental so they can get interest in the show. Who knows though.
                          Yeah. I heard about that. I didn't watch the leaked episode though 'cause I wanted to wait until it aired on TV but I remember reading all about it on Google News when it happened and I don't know if it was to generate interest in the show or somebody did it to try and ruin the ratings for the show. Supergirl debuted on CBS in America to higher ratings than Arrow, the Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Smallville, Gotham, Birds of Prey, Marvel's Agents of SHIELD, Witchblade, Dark Matter, Wynonna Earp etc and it is very likely the ratings would have been higher if that episode hadn't been leaked online. For a TV show that the former head of the CW Network put on hold and eventually scrapped 'cause they didn't think a TV show about a female superhero would be successful when it was in development as a spinoff of Smallville with Laura Vandervoort the success of the debut episode not only proved them wrong but got more viewers than Smallville. Supergirl was never given the same chance here and Channel 9 sold it to Fox 8 along with Arrow, the Flash and Legends of Tomorrow after Arrow Season 3 took a nosedive in the ratings and was moved to Go.
                          So you can get Gotham on DVD in Australia? Well that's better then not getting it at all.
                          Sadly, no and that is a joke. Because Channel 9 kept the rights to Gotham when they sold the other DC TV shows to Foxtel Season 2 of Gotham can't be released on DVD or even put on I Tunes here until Channel 9 airs it so Beccy and I had to order it from Amazon and we can only watch it 'cause we have a DVD player that is region free and can play DVDs from America. I don't know why Channel 9 decided to destroy Gotham for everybody in Australia 'cause it is one of the most illegally downloaded shows in the country now but I have heard people say it is 'cause the Program Director didn't like the show and comic book shows in general and that honestly wouldn't surprise me 'cause Channel 7 held Once Upon A Time hostage for two years and didn't air it here until a few months ago on their new 7Flix channel 'cause the owner of the channel's Wife didn't like the show and wanted more British shows instead and we had to wait until that come out on DVD in America to order it from Amazon too.
                          loved their take on M. Freeze and the kid who might become the Joker, with Barbara as his kinda Harley Quinn. I like what they're doing, even when they make changes from the comics or leave out characters I would want to see. I want the show to do it's own thing instead of trying to listen to the fans. Unlike a certain show we know of.
                          They have changed a lot of things in Gotham and their take on Firefly was very different than the Garfield Lyons version from the comic books and with so many characters appearing long before Bruce becomes Batman one member on the Gotham board speculated if they will freeze them in Arkham Asylum and they won't wake up again until Bruce is older but I don't see that happening. What surprises me is for all the characters they are using now that didn't become villains in the comic books until Bruce was older there are a number of Batman villains that could easily appear in the show in their comic book form like Ra' al Ghul and the League of Assassins and Solomon Grundy. Both characters are hundreds of years old and could easily appear in their most well known forms. I mean from what I read about Solomon Grundy he was Cyrus Gold in the 1800s and should be Solomon Grundy now which is why it looked kinda silly when he showed up on Arrow as Cyrus Gold instead of Solomon Grundy in Season 2. I think Solomon Grundy was wasted by the Arrow writers and he could have been a great villain for Oliver to face in Season 3 or 4 and would have been his biggest challenge to date.
                          Yeah a lot of people do not realize how varied metal is and I tend to like it all. But then like you I have never been tied to one type of music and grew up with a little bit of everything. I think most teens went through a goth phase in high school. I know I did. Wearing black and reading Anne Rice and pondering on the futility of life.
                          There seems to be an ignorance when it comes to the Metal genre that it is all loud screaming with satanic messages and I hate that type of music but like a lot of Metal bands and a lot of my friends who never listened to Metal really like some of the bands I have albums of and can't believe they are Metal. Metal was really popular in the 80s with Glam Metal and I remember when I was younger artists and bands like Bon Jovi, Alice Cooper, Poison, Def Leppard, Judas Priest, Lita Ford, Ratt, Whitesnake, Warrant and Winger were really popular up until the Grunge explosion and even then bands like Mr Big, Extreme and Roxus who were more Metal on their albums had success with ballads. I d

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